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Ricklent, the genie of time and magic, was the creator of the god of Statuses, the god of Jobs and the god of Skills – the gods who ruled over the Status System.
The Demon King had taken advantage of an opening that Ricklent had left and added an unknown god to the system, the god of Ranks. This allowed monsters to be included in the system.
Through this process, Titles had begun to appear in Statuses, something that neither Ricklent nor Guduranis had intentionally included in the system.
To Ricklent and the Demon King, Titles were unknown factors, but a hundred thousand years had passed since then, and even humans had learned how they worked to some extent.
Titles could be gained by a being if a certain number of people… at least several thousand, referred to that being by the Title. The more exaggerated a Title was, the more difficult it was to acquire; such Titles became easier to acquire if influential or well-known individuals referred to the being as those Titles.
For example, the ‘Hyena’ Title could be acquired by an individual by being referred to as such by a considerable number of ruffians, that individual’s victims, the government officials and adventurers trying to control them – about a thousand people in total.
However, a Title such as ‘Greatest Swordsman on the Continent’ would be hard to acquire even if acknowledged as such by tens, hundreds of thousands of people, unless one also had the acknowledgement of the ruler of an enormous nation covering half of the continent, or the acknowledgement of a god.
There was also a reactionary effect, related to the conditions required to acquire a Title.
Even if one who possessed a Title and gained fame was a worthy, just individual, some would hold resentment against them and others would spread false rumors out of jealousy or for their own gain.
Adventurers working in certain nations, famous knights, generals and army strategists in particular were commonly exposed to these. They would be praised as heroes in their own nations, but others in enemy nations would resent them and consider their military achievements to be evil deeds.
However, it was rare for this infamy to become Titles for such heroes. The fame they possessed in the form of the Title they already held cancelled that negative reputation out.
It was not known precisely how much fame was required to cancel out a certain amount of infamy. However, it was because of this reactionary effect that the ‘Divine Spear of Ice’ Mikhail who was a hero of the Mirg shield-nation two hundred years ago and the ‘Light-speed Sword’ Rickert Amid who had been one of the Fifteen Evil-breaking Swords had not gained Titles through their negative reputation among their enemies.
Of course, some Titles were ones that many called an individual for their everyday deeds, and nothing could be done about the individual being called by such Titles.
This was true for the ‘Thunderclap’ Schneider’s ‘Seed-Provider’ Title and the ‘Demon King’ Title of Vandalieu, who was also the ‘Holy Son of Vida.’
However, Heinz’s everyday deeds were those of a noble and just S-class adventurer, an honorary nobleman. He was renowned for many things, and no infamy had manifested on his Status.
Until now.
“W-what?! I’m the ‘Holy Mother Killer?!’”
Heinz, who had been preparing to head to the next floor of his trial, stopped in his tracks, dumbfounded by the sudden announcement in his head. He hastily checked his Status.
He had thought that there must be some kind of mistake, but a new Title called ‘Holy Mother Killer’ was clearly displayed in his Status.
“How can this be…” he muttered.
“Oi, Heinz, what’s the matter? What do you mean by ‘Holy Mother Killer’…?!” Edgar began, but he suddenly fell silent.
“Heinz, Edgar, what’s wrong –?! This is… You two see it as well?” murmured Delizah.
“Oi, what’s wrong with you three?” asked Jennifer.
“Did something happen? Your expressions are very alarming,” said Diana.
Heinz, Edgar and Delizah were lost for words for a moment… They looked at each other and nodded before speaking.
“I, and probably Edgar and Delizah as well, have acquired a Title called ‘Holy Mother Killer.’ I checked my Status… It doesn’t seem like I’m daydreaming or that I misheard,” said Heinz.
“Holy Mother Killer?! ‘Holy Mother’ means a mother who is sacred, right? That’s a totally evil title!” Jennifer exclaimed, before hastily covering her mouth. “… Sorry,” she apologized.
“It’s alright,” said Heinz, shaking his head.
The party was currently on a path inside the suburbs of this Dungeon’s ‘town,’ the one that led to the staircase that would take them to the floors that contained more trials for them. Thus, it was possible that someone might overhear them if they spoke too loudly. However, this ‘town’ was inside a Dungeon that Alda, the god of law and fate, had created as a trial to challenge the one who wished to succeed Bellwood.
Heinz and his companions had traveled to each floor through this path for over a year now, and they often exchanged conversation with the people of the ‘town.’ Through these interactions, they had noticed that these people were illusions of people who had lived peaceful lives… probably during the age of the gods.
In other words, they were similar to the monsters, Pure-breed Vampires and Majin that appeared as a part of the trials.
Even if the people of this ‘town’ learned of this scandal, news was unlikely to leak to the outside world.
“I see… Phew, I panicked a little,” Jennifer said in relief.
“Still, this is not something that should be spoken in loud voices. ‘Holy Mother Killer’ is not a Title to be proud of, unless this is some evil god’s trick,” Diana said sternly, her face pale.
This was a serious situation.
In the religion of Alda, the god of law and fate, there was a pope and holy women, but none known as a ‘holy mother.’ Many of the gods of Alda’s religion were male, and many of the churches that worshipped them were patriarchal societies.
Thus, most people would assume that a ‘holy mother’ would be an important figure of a religion other than Alda’s… They would likely think of Botin, mother of the earth and goddess of craftsmanship, or… Vida, the goddess of life and love.
Heinz was a leader of Alda’s peaceful faction, who recognized the existence and rights of Vida’s races. Him and his companions Delizah and Edgar possessing a Title called ‘Holy Mother Killer’ could become a fatal scandal for them.
“Wait, Diana. There is no ‘Holy Mother’ position in Vida’s Church either. I don’t know about the past, but I’m sure there’s no figure called that now,” said Jennifer.
Indeed, there were female figures known as holy women in the Churches of Vida and her subordinate gods in the Orbaume Kingdom, but there was no official position called ‘Holy Mother.’
There was surely nobody who even possessed the Title of ‘Holy Mother.’ Thus, it should have been clear that Heinz and his companions had not killed any Holy Mother.
“Jennifer, you’re right. But the problem is that the fact that we’ve killed a holy mother has been recognized. By a large group of people or even gods, no less,” said Edgar.
“That’s impossible!” Jennifer exclaimed immediately, but her face fell as she realized that this could not be denied so easily. “… No, I suppose the Title appearing on your Statuses means that’s what’s happened.”
“But what kind of group? At the very least, it has to be a group on the scale of the Orbaume Kingdom and the gods of Alda’s religion that granted us their divine protections… The Amid Empire?” Delizah guessed.
“No, that’s not possible. We’ve definitely moved our base of activities from the Amid Empire to the kingdom. The people of the empire won’t think positively of that, but that doesn’t mean they’d consider us ‘Holy Mother Killers,’” Heinz pointed out.
He was right. No matter how negatively the people of the Amid Empire might think of Heinz and his companions now that they were S-class adventurers, they would not become ‘Holy Mother Killers’ just for having moved nations.
“At the very least, it means that we have killed a being that a certain group of people recognize as a ‘Holy Mother.’ I cannot think of any, however,” said Diana.
“You’re right… I can’t think of any, either,” said Jennifer, digging through her memory. “Most of the enemies we’ve defeated up until now were monsters, and we haven’t even been a part of the war against the Amid Empire. I can’t imagine that there was some bandit or assassin known as a ‘Holy Mother,’ either.”
“It’s Holy Mother, so it has to be a woman… Ternecia? That female Pure-breed Vampire?” Delizah suggested, naming the first prominent female enemy they had defeated that came to her mind.
To be precise, the party had merely finished off a Ternecia who had barely managed to escape from somewhere, but the world did acknowledge them as having defeated her.
But Edgar shook his head, a dispirited expression on his face. “Delizah, that’s not possible. It’s true that she’s a woman, and she probably made a bunch of children in the sense of being a Vampire. Maybe the Vampire society worshipping the evil god of joyful life is large and influential enough to be the cause… but surely you can’t call that a ‘holy mother.’”
“Well, that’s true,” Delizah agreed.
Ternecia’s image was one of a purely evil woman; there wasn’t a shred of anything resembling a ‘holy mother.’
“But then… could it be, that female Majin? If I recall, she worshipped an evil god and called herself the ‘Saint of Darkness,’” said Jennifer.
“That one got away from us, remember? Who else…? I don’t think there were any women among the Kijin group we exterminated, and we’ve only defeated a few small-fries after Ternecia,” Edgar murmured.
Nobody could come up with an explanation.
But Heinz, who had been silent and deep in thought, finally spoke. “There is one that it could be,” he said.
There was a thick crease between his brows; it was clear that he was suppressing a wish to deny the possibility that he had thought of.
“No way,” Edgar muttered with a sigh. “You’re not going to say it’s that Dark Elf woman we captured in that tiny village in the Mirg shield-nation, are you? I’ll tell you now, it’s definitely not her.”
“Why do you think that?” Heinz asked him.
“Why? It’s obvious. I do think we did a bad thing back then, and it was a tragedy. Even more so now that we’re raising Selen,” said Edgar. “But that Dark Elf was known in the Mirg shield-nation as a ‘witch,’ and even in the Orbaume Kingdom, people would consider her a mother who met a tragic end, not a ‘Holy Mother.’”
“You may be right if she was called ‘Holy Mother’ in the hidden Dark Elf village that she was born in, but… judging from your expressions, that was not the case,” said Diana, looking at Edgar and Heinz’s faces.
She had never encountered the Dark Elf… Darcia, herself.
Heinz and his party had not seen Darcia’s Status back then either, and they could not imagine that being proficient in combat would be a requirement of being called a ‘Holy Mother.’ However, if she really had been such an important figure, she would have had multiple Dark Elf guards or guards of Vida’s other races.
Thus, the fact that they had captured Darcia to fulfil a request from the Adventurers’ Guild had nothing to do with gaining the ‘Holy Mother Killer’ Title.
“But there’s a reason I think it’s true, Edgar. The only ones who have acquired the ‘Holy Mother Killer’ Title are me, you and Delizah. Jennifer and Diana don’t have it,” Heinz pointed out.
The other four looked at each other. Indeed, neither Jennifer nor Diana’s Statuses displayed the ‘Holy Mother Killer’ Title, even now.
“Heinz, that just means that we killed someone known as a ‘Holy Mother’ sometime before these two joined the Five-colored Blades. That doesn’t mean it has to be that Dark Elf Darcia… Well, not that I have any other ideas,” Delizah mumbled.
The old Five-colored Blades had been famous as notable young adventurers, especially Heinz, who had been a B-class adventurer at the time, wielding a magic sword wreathed in blue flames that he carried even today.
However, they had been incomparably weaker than they were now, and although their accomplishments as adventurers had been incredible, they were small in comparison to those of the ‘Thunderclap’ Schneider, an S-class adventurer.
Of course, they had not defeated any notable enemies, either.
Heinz’s expression remained bitter.
“Delizah, everyone, she might not have been called ‘Holy Mother’ when we captured her,” he said. “But what if she came to be known as a ‘Holy Mother’ after her death? It’s not historically rare for deceased figures to be given titles.”
“That’s true, but that only applies for influential figures like knights who died in battle, or noblemen, or adventurers who defeated calamity-designated monsters at the cost of their own lives. So –” Delizah began to argue.
“What if her son went on to become an influential figure?” Heinz pressed on, cutting her off. “The Dhampir born between that Dark Elf… Darcia, and the Vampire Valen – Vandalieu, the one who appeared in the city of Niarki.”
Everyone fell silent. In other circumstances, someone would be denying this idea – perhaps Edgar would even burst into laughter.
But every member present here had witnessed Vandalieu appearing alongside Pure-breed Vampires on the 50th floor of this Dungeon, freely wielding two – no, four fragments of the Demon King as well as incredibly unusual spells.
Edgar had guessed that it might be a monster that changed its own appearance to cause agitation in its enemies, but now… everyone realized that this had been nothing more than an attempt to escape from the truth.
This convenient escape from the truth was no longer convincing after hearing Heinz’s theory.
“… It’s true that he might be able to lead monsters and the Vampires who worship evil gods if he’s that powerful, even if he is a child. It might even really be him that Ternecia was escaping from,” Edgar muttered.
“So that means it’s no coincidence that the gods recreated an illusion of him in this Dungeon,” said Jennifer. “To think that he would give you guys the ‘Holy Mother Killer’ Title…”
“That’s right. Vandalieu is still alive and becoming even stronger. I don’t know whether he’s planning revenge against me or whether he’s trying to pull off something bigger, but… he’s likely to harm the gods and this world. That’s what Alda thinks, which is probably why he made Vandalieu one of this Dungeon’s trials. If these assumptions are correct, he should appear one more time as an enemy further into the trials,” said Heinz, wiping the cold sweat that had formed on his forehead and beginning to walk towards the staircase once more. “Let’s go,” he said to his companions. “If he appears before us again, we need to see if this is true, even if it’s an illusion.”
In a Divine Realm filled with a bright blue, several gods whispered amongst themselves.
“It seems that the ill news brought by the god of reincarnation was true.”
“To think that gods such as Zuruwarn-sama and Ricklent-sama would side not with Alda, but with Vida… I cannot believe this.”
“Were they afflicted by a maddening poison when they were wounded by the Demon King? Just like Zantark?”
“No, it is possible that they are still sane.”
“What foolish things are you saying? If they are sane, why are they not working with Alda-sama!”
“I have heard that Zuruwarn-sama has always been known for his blasphemy since the age of the gods. Ricklent-sama is a god who perceives things not as good and evil, but through other criteria, is he not? They may be great gods, but we must not assume that they think in the same way as Alda-sama.”
“How disrespectful! It is only natural for any great god to think about what is best for this world! In fact, both Zuruwarn-sama and Ricklent-sama joined forces with Alda-sama to fight against the Demon King Guduranis!”
“Then let me ask you this. Why did their subordinate gods act in that way during the battle that took place a hundred thousand years ago! Almost all of those with individual personalities sided with Vida, and the rest hid away in their Divine Realms, spouting nonsense about maintaining the attributes, not even showing their faces as this crucial event took place!”
Finally, this argument between the gods was interrupted.
“This is good,” said a goddess who had been sitting silently in a corner of the Divine realm.
“Pargtarta-dono!” one of the other gods murmured in surprise.
The younger gods who had risen to godhood after the battle of a hundred thousand years ago turned to face the goddess who had interrupted. This goddess had been ordered to watch over the resting grounds of Peria, the goddess of water and knowledge, and protect them from Vandalieu. Other than initial greetings, she had not spoken a word up until this point, so the gods were surprised to hear her speak now.
She was Pargtarta, the goddess of flow. She was the first familiar spirit that Peria had ever created, and she was now a goddess. She was the most closely-trusted among all of Peria’s subordinates. As the goddess of flow, she was a senior subordinate god who had not moved from this place so that she could keep the wounded, slumbering Peria safe.
“I am not blaming you. Gods too need recreation, after all. Youngsters being full of curiosity is nothing out of the ordinary, and lively discussion will deepen your own viewpoints. You may continue,” Pargtarta said to the gods.
Realizing that she was indirectly telling them to speak calmly rather than argue angrily, the young gods remained uncomfortably silent, avoiding looking at each other.
Though Pargtarta was a subordinate god like them, she was as important to Peria as Curatos was to Alda. Though she was not worshipped independently, every Church deifying Peria would contain statues and sculptures depicting Pargtarta as well.
She was on a different level from the others.
Seeing the other gods fall silent, Pargtarta spoke to them quietly.
“I understand your feelings of unease,” she said. “There is news that the Sun Giant Talos has been revived, is there not?”
“Y-yes. According to the gods that were keeping watch, the Pure-breed Vampires conducted a blasphemous ritual, and shortly after that, Talos roared as he rose from the earth,” said one of the other gods.
“The marks on his neck made by Nineroad-sama’s whip still remain, but it seems that he has been fully revived,” said another, his words gradually becoming more fluid as he spoke. “However, he remains charmed by Vida’s beauty just as he was a hundred thousand years ago; I have heard that he is staying inside the Boundary Mountain Range and has created a Divine Realm there.”
Alda’s forces believed that the Pure-breed Vampires had conducted some blasphemous ritual to revive Talos, and also that the Pure-breed Vampires had acquired the Sunlight Resistance Skill or something else that allowed them to conquer the sun.
However, the truth was that Talos had had enough of Dragan and Erpel fooling about on top of his head and shouted angrily at them, “Enough! I cannot get out if you are making so much noise on my head!”
Of course, Alda’s forces were also wrong about how the Pure-breed Vampires had conquered the sun; it was because they were now Abyssal Pure-breed Vampires.
But it was true that the revived Vida was regaining her forces. Even the young gods who had not experienced the battle of a hundred thousand years ago were shaken by this fact.
With Pargtarta having pointed out their unrest, the young gods suddenly realized that they had never exchanged proper conversation with her, so they began talking to her about their worries.
“Judging from the present situation, what is happening on the Demon Continent? If Talos has been revived, then Deeana and Tiamat should have been revived as well, as they were less heavily wounded than he was. Farmaun-sama… Farmaun, is showing no signs of returning to Alda-sama.”
“And Alda-sama is hiding something from us. He was apparently very shaken by what he was told about Vandalieu by Rodcorte. There is no mistake that it is something grave, if it is enough to cause unrest even in Alda-sama.”
“According to the rumors I heard, he was in a fit of anger rather than being shaken… Vandalieu is someone who was reincarnated here by Rodcorte from another world, and there are approximately a hundred others who will be reincarnated here as well. Is it not likely that Alda was enraged by that?”
“From another world, just like the champions… but from Earth. If Vandalieu was born there, it is no doubt a hellish world filled with blasphemous people with no fear for gods.”
Now that the topic had shifted to Earth, Pargtarta joined the discussion once more. “It is only natural for you to feel unease. Our lord Alda himself is shaken, after all,” she said. “But you must calm yourselves. It is true that Vida’s faction is organizing its forces; it may eventually become as powerful as it was a hundred thousand years ago, or even more so. But that will be hundreds or even thousands of years from now, will it not?”
Vida had been freed from Alda’s divine authority and revived. She would likely gain more familiar spirits and heroic spirits, made from the souls of her believers.
The powerful members and ancestors of Vida’s races such as the Pure-breed Vampires were on the move once more.
Two of the great gods had sided with Vida, and Vandalieu was currently moving behind the scenes in the Orbaume Kingdom.
However, Vida and the other great gods had not completely recovered from their wounds. They would not be able to gather new familiar spirits and heroic spirits right away.
And many powerful enemies, such as the Vampire True Ancestor, had been buried or sealed away a hundred thousand years ago by Alda’s forces. These enemies would never return.
“Meanwhile, Alda-sama is raising a new vessel to become a champion who would succeed Bellwood, and attempting to awaken Bellwood himself. The other gods are finding and nurturing new heroes. We are not participating in this process as we must devote ourselves to protect this place, and if it is done poorly, we will end up with low-quality heroes. But we can trust the others’ efforts to ensure this will not be the case,” said Pargtarta. “Furthermore, through some strange turn of events, we have Rodcorte’s full cooperation, do we not?”
“Now that you mention it, you are right. In terms of number, Vida’s side has four great gods including the Zantark who has lost his mind, but none of those gods are in their ordinary states,” one of the young gods murmured.
“That’s right. I do not know how trustworthy Rodcorte is from what I have heard, but we will become a sturdier rock once Peria-sama is revived. Is that not right, Pargtarta-dono?” said another, looking up to Pargtarta with bright hope on his face.
Pargtarta nodded, providing the young gods with a great sense of reassurance. “Once our master is revived, I am sure she will do her utmost for this world’s sake, too,” she said.
“Yes, she is the goddess who is praised for knowing the hearts of gods.”
“Peria-sama’s knowledge will be of great support to Alda-sama, whose heart pains over the betrayal of his brothers.”
With those words of praise for Peria, the young gods returned to their observation and guard duties with the desire to protect this place at all costs.
It seemed that the diversion had succeeded.
Pargtarta smiled at the gods as they left, then returned to her own position, holding her spear and shield.
The thoughts of beings with emotions are complex, so leading them is troublesome, but it is good that they are simple. Whether they stay to protect Peria-sama or not does not make a difference, but thanks to them, I have a good understanding of the outside world, she thought to herself, staring coldly at the young gods while still wearing a fake smile. It seems that the information is correct. My true master, can you hear my voice?
Pargtarta’s master was not Alda. She showed respect for him for appearances’ sake, but she was a goddess who belonged elsewhere.
To begin with, the current situation in which Alda controlled gods who managed multiple attributes was unnatural and irregular.
Pargtarta did not think anything of the young gods who had not noticed that the current situation was unnatural and irregular. It was only natural to be swept into an easier path; this was true for both gods and mortals.
Even Pargtarta herself was no exception to this.
My true master, my flow will go in the direction in which you point.
“I was watching as if I was dreaming. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for rebuilding this destroyed nation and saving my children, but… please stop making so much noise on my head.”
These were the words Talos spoke after his revival, and ten days had passed since then.
An increase in Blood Potion production, a lecture by Darcia and the other idols to celebrate Talos’s revival, and the taking over of the criminal organization had all been completed, so Vandalieu was trying to officially enter the city that he had set his sights on.
But as he stood in the line outside the city’s gates, his consciousness suddenly faded away. The next thing he knew, he was being held in the mouth of one of Zuruwarn’s heads.
Ah, a midday dream, he thought, but he couldn’t do anything as he was carried off somewhere.
After they crossed a background that resembled a night sky, they arrived at their destination and Vandalieu saw a nostalgic sight.
A blue planet – Earth.
It had more clouds than Vandalieu had often seen in maps or on TV, but it was certainly Earth.
“There’s someone that I want you to meet,” said Zuruwarn.
“Before that, is it alright if I go and look up the recipe for Cola? Also, I’d like to taste the cheese and branded meats so I can have a reference,” said Vandalieu.
“Hmm, that might be difficult. Descending on the planet as you are now would cause problems both for you and for the planet. Especially for the people on the surface,” said Zuruwarn, shuddering at the thought of what would happen if a great monster and himself were to descend onto Earth.
Vandalieu then realized that he was small in comparison to Zuruwarn in his current form, but he was still the size of a multistory building.
“… Never mind, then,” he said.
Hesitant to descend upon Japan in a building-size state, he reluctantly gave up on his idea.
“But if there is someone you want to know about, we can observe what they are doing now,” said Ricklent, whom Vandalieu had only just realized was present.
Vandalieu thought for a moment, then suddenly realized that there was something that he wanted to know.
What had happened, approximately thirty years after his own death?
“I’d like to know what happened to the business that I would have had a live-in job at if I hadn’t died, and the person who interviewed me,” Vandalieu said.
Zuruwarn laughed loudly. “Is that what you want to know? I thought you’d want to know what happened to some idol or actress that you liked, but I was wrong! … Ah, sorry,” he said, realizing that his mouth had accidentally let go of Vandalieu.
“Zuruwarn, he may be only a soul at the moment, but that does not mean we can simply release him into outer space,” Ricklent warned him.
He reached out to catch Vandalieu, who was helplessly flapping his arms and legs in silence as he floated about in space.
“Vandalieu, it seems that the construction company that you would have joined is still in existence. However, the person who was in charge of your interview has moved to another company, and has risen to become the head of a department. He will reach the age for mandatory retirement next year,” said Ricklent.
It seemed that the person in charge of Vandalieu’s interview was still alive. He had remained in the corner of Vandalieu’s memory, as he was one of the rare people who had complimented Vandalieu for enthusiasm. It was good to hear that he was doing well.
“I’m not interested in anything else,” said Vandalieu. “Kanako and the others apparently checked on their family and friends before they were reincarnated in Lambda.”
Kanako and the others had apparently learned about their family and friends through Shimada Izumi, who had been the class representative… though it had apparently been difficult to ask, as they had betrayed Izumi and the others in their previous lives; they had been vague with their words when they told Vandalieu about this.
Suddenly, Vandalieu remembered something – he, too, had a family, though only in the sense that they had lived in the same house as him.
He remembered them, but he didn’t feel any desire to ask about his uncle, aunt or cousins.
I don’t care, after all.
Now that he had a real, warm family, these people had become incredibly insignificant to him, even more so than before.
But I never ended up being able to get them back for anything… I suppose I’ll just wish them misfortune, he thought.
“Ah, if you’re thinking about your uncle’s family, they’ve had plenty of misfortune, so let’s not go and curse them,” Zuruwarn said hastily, stopping him.
“We probably won’t be noticed here, but this world is under Rodcorte’s jurisdiction. We can’t do anything too conspicuous,” said Ricklent.
“Huh? Is it conspicuous for me to wish misfortune on them?” Vandalieu asked.
Zuruwarn and Ricklent’s combined seven heads nodded.
It was apparently best for Vandalieu to refrain from wishing misfortune upon others in his current state.
“The people of Earth have so little Mana that they may as well have none, so they would not be able to resist even the weakest of curses,” said Zuruwarn. “Now then, shall we get going? We’ll visit the god of Earth first, then the god of Origin after that.”
Title explanation:
Holy Mother Killer
A Title that marks criminals who took the life of someone praised as the Holy Mother. Unlike Titles such as Dragon Slayer and Colossus Slayer, it is not a Title of praise to celebrate a great achievement, but a negative Title given for the commitment of an evil act. It is a brand that marks criminals.
For that reason, it does not provide any positive effects. If it has been given forcefully, it may create some unwanted connections that might prevent one from living a respectable life, such as drawing attention from organizations that are hostile to the Holy Mother that was killed.
There are no negative effects to speak of, either… However, those who worship the Holy Mother would hate and wish to take the lives of those who possess this Title, and even those who do not worship the Holy Mother would not think positively of such a Title.
One could consider these to be the Title’s negative effects.
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RayneVilanore
I hate how everything just works out for Mr. Ketchup, and even the negative titles he gets doesn’t have any real negative affects, but Vans do.
Korath
Can we pls stop pretending it was a minor slip in your youth? Compared to our world it would be like running through the streets and shouting “I hate n**gers.” But you didnt stop there. No, you went full K*K and set up a fire show for the masses so the the mother could burn at a stake and consequencely have her child starve to death.
I can understand if it were some monsters you cant communicate with, but they even spoke the same language, just a different skin color from a white elf. If you are not sure about all the details of her background, dont take this quest in the first place.
Ronin
Bruh, Heinz ability to do responsibility and blame others must be on S rank as well. Like nah Darcia was a witch. According to whom? The country that literally hates all of Vida’s race? So they tell you she’s a witch and you just go along with it? We saw some Kijin and killed them but, you know we’re part of the peaceful faction. lol
Naberisu
Wow I could swear Edgar would convince Heinz that it was all a misunderstanding once again.
Akachi86
Damn, those gods wondering why the other gods are not sniffing Alda’s farts are so pathetic.
Alda had a 100.000 years of unobstructed governing the world and has nothing to show for it.
“To begin with, the current situation in which Alda controlled gods who managed multiple attributes was unnatural and irregular.”
Yup. All great gods were equal, Alda usurped the right to control everything after, you know, disposing of the last uninjured great god standing, not just judge for godly transgressions ( which I assume was supposed to be more of the “not doing their job or destroying the world” than “she made races which look weird” types of crimes)
And good to know one of the few people nice to Amamiya on Earth had a good life.
Sailon
“How disrespectful! It is only natural for any great god to think about what is best for this world! In fact, both Zuruwarn-sama and Ricklent-sama joined forces with Alda-sama to fight against the Demon King Guduranis!”
So the beat for this world is only Alda go agaist alda is go agaist the besto to the world, even if most great gods are agaist is them that are wrong and Alda is right, and them saying that Zuruwarn and Ricklent sided with Alda Alda agaist the Demon King sound like Alda was commanding and forget that all 11 gods are in the same side they dint joing agaist the Demon King because all of them alredy belong to the same group sense the beggining, and they forget that Vida also fight agaist the Demon King, this prove that Alda fancing himself the leader of the gods passing lies to the future generations and more likely even expect that the other great gods obey him when they awaken, And i even think Peria is alredy awaken her subordinate seems to talk to her, more likely she pretend to sleep in fear of Alda, because who knows what he do if ahe argue with him and say to him tha she thinks what he do is wrong, i bet he would impale her just like he did with Vida saying she go crazy
Alke
OK ketchup kun, yes-gods and goddesses dogs of Alda, I’m really looking forward to a day where you will all be devoured, or killed or even something a little bit less dramatic for the gods if they are needed, as long as they f*ck off and let competent and broad minded pple be. A good dog does not block the way😒😒😒. Ricklent and Zuruwarn are reeeaaally cool and funny 😂😂
Akachi86
“To think that gods such as Zuruwarn-sama and Ricklent-sama would side not with Alda, but with Vida… I cannot believe this.”
“Were they afflicted by a maddening poison when they were wounded by the Demon King? Just like Zantark?”
“No, it is possible that they are still sane.”
“What foolish things are you saying? If they are sane, why are they not working with Alda-sama!”
The level of fart smelling amongst Alda’s faction is on another level I see.
Wolfwood824
>”He reached out to catch Vandalieu, who was helplessly flapping his arms and legs in silence as he floated about in space.”
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Okay, I really want to see the scene of human-shaped cosmic horror Van cartoonishly flapping his limbs illustrated one day.
Vitor
“But then… could it be, that female Majin? If I recall, she worshipped an evil god and called herself the ‘Saint of Darkness,’” said Jennifer.
“That one got away from us, remember? Who else…? I don’t think there were any women among the Kijin group we exterminated, and we’ve only defeated a few small-fries after Ternecia,” Edgar murmured.
Ehem… what do the people that were saying last chapter that Heinz&co wasn’t THAT bad?
Vitor
have to say?*, forgot to end the phrase
Randy Rando
To be fair to Mr. Ketchup, the only sources of information he has access to all unanimously agree that all “evil gods” AKA, the gods from the demon King’s world are all unconditionally evil and so are all their worshipers. He’s never come across any counter evidence because all of the “good evil gods” have either been wiped out or gone into hiding. The “Saint of Darkness” and her… (Fellows? Followers? Neighbors? Idk how to put it.) actually were worshiping an “evil god”, only it was a “good evil god”. For all Mr. Ketchup knew they could be similar to Hihiryushukaka’s vampires. They were even bribing and seducing local officials, even though they only did so to be left alone.
Zenden1st
good progression
Ereshkigal
“No way,” Edgar muttered with a sigh. “You’re not going to say it’s that Dark Elf woman we captured in that tiny village in the Mirg shield-nation, are you? I’ll tell you now, it’s definitely not her.”
Edgar, the man who refuse to accept such possibilities as if he was a child.
Chiu ChunLing
Edgar probably has killed enough mothers to be genuinely puzzled by Heinz’s hangup about Darcia. Keep in mind that the FCB was still exterminating Ghouls right up till they got locked in this ‘Trial’, where they’ve also been killing replicas of all those close to Van. And Edgar probably doesn’t care about whatever fine theological distinction is being made between Ghouls and Dark Elves, because in his experience there isn’t any significant difference.
Which just shows that he’s less of a hypocrite than Heinz.
WizziBot
🤚Perish Heinz
randomlnreader69
Bruh van has support of atleast 6 great gods. Cuz peria is obviously gonna betray
Chiu ChunLing
Honestly, Vida is the only one of the great gods to even consider trying to talk to Alda. The others have all taken it for granted that he’s far too dangerously insane to listen to reason.
Trepanning
Alda listens to no one and punishes anyone who has different opinions, not that different from Rodcorte, he’s a tyrant.
Zvasvida
He reached out to catch Vandalieu, who was helplessly flapping his arms and legs in silence as he floated about in space.
Omg i was imagining Van with his dead fish eye
A_wandering_otter
And also a bunch of demon king parts and a form that even scares evil gods
Warlono
“How disrespectful! It is only natural for any great god to think about what is best for this world! In fact, both Zuruwarn-sama and Ricklent-sama joined forces with Alda-sama to fight against the Demon King Guduranis!”
So did Vida, a fact they seem to be forgetting.
In fact, they seem to be forgetting; before the gods were struck down by Guduranis; and Alda, Vida, and Zantark were the only great gods still capable of even moving (though Zantark had just recently fused with evil gods) Alda wasn’t the leader of the gods. He wasn’t even the one that settled debates between the gods, that was Peria and Ricklent who normally had last say or settled debates.
It wasn’t until Alda started a war and struck down his own sister, leaving her body impaled on stakes and swords and stealing her divine authority away from her (slaughtering many of her children in the process, and instating practices afterwards to insure the survivors would be persecuted and hunted for existing) that Alda became the leader of a bunch of yes men and women, a blind king among blind subjects.
Worse than not being able to see what he’s done, Alda reflects on his past actions, laments them even, and continues committing them. Worse than not being able to see what he’s done, Alda chooses not to fix what he’s done, chooses to continue his mistakes, chooses to lead the blind until they eventually come to the cliff ledge and willingly topple themselves over the brink and into the Abyss.
Alke
Warlono : thank you very much for saying exactly what I wanted to say myself 🙏it infuriates me to do it and I get pissed of every time so… Arigato gozaimasu👌
Zenden1st
“But then… could it be, that female Majin? If I recall, she worshipped an evil god and called herself the ‘holy woman of darkness,’” said Jennifer.
“That one got away from us, remember? Who else…? I don’t think there were any women among the Kijin group we exterminated, and we’ve only defeated a few small-fries after Ternecia,” Edgar murmured.
…… I dont know what to say.
Dr. Steel
How can they say that Zuruwarn, a god, committed blasphemy?
ObserverBias
As noted by the ‘Transgressor’ title explanation, it involves a significant amount of trickery, and that happens to be Zuruwarn’s bread and butter (even his own recent Divine Messages to his followers were a warning that he refused to check for responses or elaborating on).
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Would reckon Zuruwarn is/was the type to lie about what YOLO means, get everyone saying it, and cackle when someone brings up to his face that a fool did something foolish with that information.
Vitor
Because Alda says so, you create chaos? you commit blasphemy, even thought Zuruwarn is the god of space and creation, and in his own words, he expects the creation that is born from chaos, so Zuruwarn commited blasphemy in the eyes of his idiotic brother just by ruling about what he ruled
Baldingere
I wish we heard some news from Botin. Even in the latest chapters (ss35 I think), we don’t know how she’s doing.
BaldTurtle
*Van descends to Earth*
“GIVE ME COLA AND CHEEEEEEESSSSSEEEEE!!!!!”
Drackormort
Well, it would be a typical day in Japan where a kaiju appears and destroys the city bellowing and roaring
unwanted child
“What foolish things are you saying? If they are sane, why are they not working with Alda-sama!”
it’s funny how they say all other GREAT god’s should FALLOW alda. he wasn’t even the one making big decision’s it was Ricklent and Peria who had the final say in thing’s
god almost every single god on alda’s side goes “gA bLa aLdA gOoD GaH bLa NOt aLdA bAd
Jason
Tsk hardly any negative effects then
Raidanzoup
Daikaijuu Vandalieu.
polynesianvibez
“There’s someone that I want you to meet,” said Zuruwarn.
“Before that, is it alright if I go and look up the recipe for Cola? Also, I’d like to taste the cheese and branded meats so I can have a reference,” said Vandalieu
van is too funny 😂
thanks for the chapter
Wsteven7o7
He could have just thrown sugar until he made it….
ObserverBias
That’d just be Kool-Aid, no dice.
SuprGofi
To those who are still on Heinz side. They were listing the mothers that they had killed after they received the title.
In their defense it was monsters, this includes vampires. Cough selen parent is a vampire. Is anyone seeing the hypocrisy.
Heinz is questioning his faith in Alda but he still will take any Alda justice in faithfully. He is already determining van as bad for the gods and world, even if it is just illusion.
polynesianvibez
exactly
Drackormort
For me every time it seems the same or more obnoxious than Kouki from Arifureta .
At first I felt some sympathy for him, I believed that he honestly regretted handing over Darsia to Alda’s extremist fanatics, and that he couldn’t do anything to prevent her from being tortured and burned at the stake, I even believed that Vandalieu should forgive him and ally with him against Alda, but each time he shows that all he wants is to impose his own version of justice
hidefreek
Heinz reason is simple, He believe in Alda and He indeed quite close to how Alda want.
Keep only law and destroy all those who isn’t it, is Heinz common sense(He has zero question to Alda, those deflies lawmust be destroy)
MintyMints
Heinz is (or at least was) planning to question Alda on why he would be given his divine protection as member of the Peaceful Faction and if Alda truly wants Vida’s “human” races to go extinct if so learn why then convince Alda otherwise the doesn’t sound like “zero question to Alda” to me.
Chiu ChunLing
Heinz already knows the answer.
Alda needs Heinz to kill Van. As long as he does that, then nothing else matters.
And Heinz also knows that cuts both ways, that killing Van ensures the genocide of Vida’s races will continue because Van is the primary obstacle. And that is the entire reason that Alda wants to eliminate him.
Alda is willing to focus on killing Van rather than the wider genocide till Van is out of the way. Heinz is willing to let the genocide continue after he gets credit for “saving the world” by killing the only real obstacle to the genocide.
The only thing that Heinz doesn’t know is that Alda is currently cornered enough to be seriously considering killing Vida as well in order to facilitate shutting down her reincarnation cycle to ensure a complete genocide.
Baldingere
I agree. They choose to not kill Vida’s races, yet they never questionned that many races were called monsters! Instead, they kill kijins, majins and ghouls without problem. Are they brain-dead?! They literally went from: all Vida’s races must be killed! To: we don’t really know, so let’s assume it’s fine to kill the races we don’t have contacts with.
WolfLord_Jordon
That’s interesting.Thanks for the chapter on a good story
Wannabe
Edgar has apparently killed enough mothers to not be certain it’s Darcia.
Aizen
Is Pargtarta’s ‘true master’ Peria or Solder, peria’s champion? If it is solder, then she will betray Alda, even if it is Peria, I don’t think she will be on Alda’s side when she is revived as Van possesses part of Solder, her beloved champion’s soul. Same can be said for Botin.
In short, Alda is royally screwed!!! (Not that I hate he is screwed, he deserve it.)
Triduo
I agree on the fact that he, indeed, deserves punishment.
But so did Vida for her reckless actions that led to her imprisonment… But in that case, she already got punished so I guess Alda’s the only one who really needs to be put back in his place for his encouragements for the discrimination towards Vida’s races who didn’t deserves that kind of punishment !
Paradoxe : You’re trying too hard. -___-
Sorry…
Brandragoon
Punishment for what? Vida was doing what she was supposed to do, she is the goddess of life and love. Insuring that life can continue on is her responsibility, creating new races that are adapted to the new environment is part of her job.
SuicidalSkeletin
Not only that. It can be considered that Alda’s actions are opposite to what he should be doing as a God of Law and Fate. Vida creating new races that evolved for the new mana contaminated world is literally a fate wished upon the world by a Goddess of Life and Love and given enough time a new order would be formed.
Alda just decided on his own that he should be in the position to judge what other Gods created and whether or not to purge them.
Literally the equivalent of a corrupt conservative politician that would be willing to put his nation at a disadvantage in order to keep it as it was
Gohankuten
Ehhh I wouldn’t say Alda decided on his own. More like he was coerced into the decision by the EcoNazi Bellwood.
Dr. Steel
What she did may not have been wrong, but the problem is she went off on her own, didn’t negotiate with the remaining gods, and built an unstable system. If she worked to convince Alda, found a compromise, and worked together to build a new system, things wouldn’t have gone bad. And both gods acknowledged that, in hindsight, they could have tried to find middle ground, but it was too late at that point. And you might as well think of the gods as humans with Divine-level powers, so they are affected by their emotions. They were weary after a long battle, Vida was suspecting Alda of scheming against Zakkart, and took reckless actions, convincing Alda she was driven mad from the long battle and her grief. So in a sense, both Alda and Vida committed actions deserving of some form of punishment. But I’m not going to say that Vida’s ‘punishment’ wasn’t extreme. And while I’m at it, I would like to mention that having a god of law that can punish the other gods one-sidedly is a bad idea, as like I said, the gods are very human-like, and there is no universal truth/justice, so it just becomes a dictatorship.
Bzn
I agree vida went a little to far but Alda took it to the extreme. attacking vida instead of talking to her is like a brother breaking his sisters bones because she said she was going to sell the house to buy a new one, talk her out of it or come up with a good way to do it dont break her bones so that she cant sell it
hidefreek
No use.
Vida herself thought Bellwood and Vida betrayed her and creation-mind champion(her champion), After they completely erase all Champion relic.
SIMPLY try to delete Zakkart and his co existance from Lamda.(Ricklent hate Alda to the bone because is this)
Vida wrong… Maybe but Alda is worse and nearly try to do for his ideal by destroy the whole Lamda.
Vitor
More likely, “Yupeon angered Vandalieu who has the fragments of Solder’s soul, Peria’s champion…let’s just offer Yupeon as a snack”
Ryouha26
He reached out to catch Vandalieu, who was helplessly flapping his arms and legs in silence as he floated about in space.
So cute hehehehe
Wsteven7o7
You say cute but that was death sentence to Van if they just let him float in space for longer.
YohaoShakur
I think it’s really strange how Alda don’t question his own choices and plana. Okay, he is the god of Law, Justice, Order and Light, só I guess no god would be super flexible being god of this kind of things, but him judging one sidedly that all gods are insane just cause they don’t accept his word as the one and only truth. From what is told to us about Alda before the invasion of the Demon King he wasn’t like that, he even cooperated with the plano of choosing warriors from another world that he didn’t agree before. So I really think that he was brainwashed or something like that by Bellwood . Nineroad looks sane as she is doing what she can while Alda made a church centered in himself and in his own gods, instead of making something like in the “city” of the trial that worship all gods equally. I really want to know more about Bellwood, and what he is god of, I don’t remember If is anyone talks about that, and more about how he got sealed somewhere even Alda can’t go.
Berny0125
I will tell you that Bellwood was just a brat with empty ideals without thinking about the future that he wanted to be a hero, you know like the other Isekais, in the end he realizes what he did and reflects on it but does nothing, just lends him his power to Heinz
Nobody2
A combination of Bellwood’s brainwashing and the fact he was the only great god around for so many years as well as being surrounded by nothing but yes men really gave him a self righteous complex
Hobbes
That bit of info about where Bellwood is sealed being a place that Alda can’t step foot in is something I missed the first time I read this story.
If you read ahead with the Japanese raws via google translate, it is actually a fairly critical piece of info though I won’t spoil why. I’ll just say that if Alda was the one fighting that same evil god instead of Bellwood, Alda’s fate would likely have been the same (i.e. mutual defeat/simultaneous KO’s)
Vitor
Bellwood, god of discrimination
Bearsbearsbearsbears
Thank you for the chapter and all the good work you put in!
Vandalieu-sama's Nun
PRAISE BE TO VANDALIEU-SAMA, DARCIA-SAMA, VIDA-SAMA, THE GREAT TALOS-SAMA!!
Judging from the sheer title itself Holy Mother Killer is one that will create aggro against Heinz, Edgar and Delizah and it will attract bad organizations such as the extremists even more, with that out of the way Heinz instead of analysing the situation carefully for what it has become he is now gonna become a puppet for Alda’s devices strength wise he should be weak since he can’t get past the previous Vandalieu,Ternecia, Gubamon, and Bikyne(these three were already weakened due to being lazy and overindulgence) meanwhile Pargtarta is charge of these younger gods who naively give off valuable information if I remember correctly the subordinate gods are still connected with their original masters meaning that She is The God of Flow, water flows into the direction of where again?The sea thus she will go wherever her master leads her, Alda himself is hoping to revive Bellwood who is in a location even he can not step where upon Heinz and co would go and wake him up I am pretty much guessing that Alda is still brainwashed by this bastard just as Farmaun was and it would take directly breaking Bellwood’s soul to get Alda and co thinking straight again. So Vandalieu is going back to Earth oh boy this breaks the Isekai genre by 100 huh as he is right now Vandalieu is more terrifying than the Demon King Guduranis in the terms of 1. He now has the divine protections of other gods from other worlds 2. He is truly loved by his people and those who benefit because of him and thus his own forces will increase more and more but still Vandalieu you actually wanted to bring Coco Cola to Lambda and make energy drinks called Van Juice(need I say Van Bath Water?Joke intended he is selling his own blood after all). Anyhow thinking past that Vandalieu is gonna visit Hiroto 2, Narumi who is definitely gonna have a fallout with her husband again due to him not telling her, and young Mei who is now developing the Death Attribute, from what I am seeing it could be that Vandalieu will fight and break Avalon’s soul to ensure he never sets foot on Lambda and whisk Mei away to Lambda where she becomes the second Death Mage that or he will give Mei his divine protection which is very strong mind you and she will defeat Avalon in Origin just like a background story of a good comic book story or just do it simple whisk her away Hiroto thinks that Avalon did it and fights him and all hell breaks loose in Origin. I am rooting for the first one tho but I might be surprised with what happens
Destro777
This is probably one of my favorite things now. Also doesnt Van only have connections to thw dark gods of earth or is it all gods now.
Nobody2
It was only the dark ones until now
Valeth
Another way to think about it, and I may be wrong, but I thought all of the Gods of earth wear technically 1 god. With several separate personalities to often clashed with each other, as its personalities were created by the people and then died when they were no longer worshiped any more.
So in theory if that is correct then wouldn’t he already be connected to them all in a round about way.
I may have misunderstood that however.
Skarbrand
You are correct about that.
Clyde
Thank you for all your hard work! This is one of my most favorite stories, and I hope to see it continue 😀
Funky K
Thanks for the Chapter!!! So~ Pargtarta is a double agent? That’s cool. I can imagine her troll face as she casually gets intel out of the noob gods. Also is Vandalieu’s soul just floating in orbit around Earth right now. Imagine seeing that in the Hubble telescope!!
Metazoxan
What I’m not clear on is if she is on Vida’s side or just not entirely on Alda’s side?
Nobody2
She’s probably on Peria’s side whoever Peria decides to work with when she wakes up she’s will work with them to
Vitor
Yes, Peria will most likely be on her own side… but so is Ricklent, who is on Van’s side cause Van is not only Zakkart, but also Ark, Ricklent’s champion, Solder, Peria’s champion, and Hillwillow, Botin’s champion… so… yeah, Alda is alone with Nineroad
QuantumQuilava
I’ve spent the past month of my life catching up to this series and now I play the waiting game. I hate the whole thing game.
Oshibo
I’ve been meaning to say this for a while, but as of right now Heinz can’t even defeat Borkus, how would he expect to defeat Van. Borkus is Rank 13 and could be considered stronger than the pure-breed vampires in the boundary mountain range due to his fighting abilities, they have pure power but lack fighting ability, Borkus is their level of power with a wealth of battle experience. As it has been stated a superhuman among heroes is needed to defeat a rank 13 monster and Heinz doesn’t meet that qualification as his victory against Terencia was a sham.
Valeth
I think this makes perfect sense in a 1v1 situation Heinz would seriously struggle, if not get smashed outright. However, all of the 5 Color Blades vs Borkus is a bit of a different situation I think.
I mean as is they struggle with the lesser outdated Van’s, so even as a group they would most likely lose to Van/Borkus, but its not written in stone so to speak.
The main issue is how powerful they will be when they complete the 150th? floor. I believe they said it was that many and have to defeat the old Demon King on that floor. If they can clear that they may become a serious threat, but as is they are IMO lacking.
Yoki
There ade only 108 floors if i’m not mistaken.
With the 65th floor vs Van and the 66th floor vs the DK Army again
Nox
Thanks for the chapter. And nie Vandalieu know that he can diese others while Heinz and His companion know that they are in big big trouble.
conscript117
Thank you very much for the translation, thank you to the sponsors, without you this would not be possible.
Farhan
My be, peria not sealed, because the convertion of pargtarta
Lord Rin
So looks like that title really is just a title and it has no special effects. It won’t do them any good for their reputations however since they are part of a faction that wants to reconcile with with Vida and her races.
Man Heinz is pretty dumb. He just got such a bad title that practically screams “I’m a villain!” so he should think about how much influence Van would need to have for Heinz, Edgar, and Delizah to get such a title despite how they’re part of a peaceful faction of Alda’s religion and haven’t overtly done anything evil. He should be stopping challenging this dungeon and using the heroic spirit descent or something else to try to get some answers but no, he just decides to continue what he’s doing despite already having misgivings. At this point I’m hoping that Van hijacks his illusion self to enter the dungeon and beat up Heinz and his group while explaining everything.
So looks like this Pargtarta isn’t actually allied with Alda and will follow whatever wish her master Peria has. Peria might side with Van and Vida since I think I recall one of the 4 heroes’ souls that make up Van was originally Peria’s champion.
Heh leave it to Van to first think about getting the recipes for Cola and other food when visiting Earth and then wanting to know what happened to some random guy who interviewed him for a job just because he was nice to him. Anyways I wonder if he can at least descend on Origin? Also since time flows differently on the different worlds, I wonder how much time has passed on Origin? Mei might have already gotten old enough to get her magic attributes tested. Maybe Van can give her his Divine Protection or maybe take her with him so no problems occur because of her potentially having the Death Attribute.
Tejing
Actually time does not flow differently on the different worlds.
Lord Rin
Yes it does. The amount of hours in a day and days in a week and months in a year are the same between all the worlds Rodcorte manages but not the amount of time that passes. Back when the Perseus and Skanda were reincarnated on Lambada, it still hasn’t been 5 years before their memories are supposed to normally come back yet when we get chapters about what’s happening on Origin, they say that quite a few years have passed since those guys were killed. Easily 5 years have passed there. Or what about the Earth that the original champions like Bellwood came from? It is clearly the modern world yet when they got brought to Lambada and after everything has happened, 100,000 years have passed by the time Van gets born yet clearly neither his Earth or Origin have had 100,000 years pass. The alternate Earth and Lambda clearly have different time frames where different amounts of time has passed so it should stand to reason that other worlds would also be like that.
Kuro-san
The “Earth” where the champions came from is not our “Earth”, but a version of our “Earth”, with hundreds of thousands of years of advantage.
In other words: The Champions “Earth” existed long before ours, and that’s one of the only differences between the two.
PS: Origin is also a version of our “Earth”, but with magic.
Wsteven7o7
Yeah author way of the Universe is petty F up in my opinion unless he is a God in many universe wich would explain what is happening but at the same time it would not.
Im really knowledgeable about Multi Universe things but im not saying author is dumb not knowing since is petty hard to understand.
PS: Provably author universe is like a computer Repeating a error over and over again that would explain why so many copies and so many different laws in different planets even do i think they are all in one universe and the rules of the universe cannot bend even do some rules are petty weird we just need to find the answers.
Only things i know the universe goes brrr is either a Black hole wich bends time and space itself. The other thing is Quantum mechanics and the many weird things it has.
The other thing would be the word Infinite itself wich you cannot comprehend the magnitude of it and either does the Universe.
Gohankuten
The Earth of the 7 Champions is a different Earth than the one that the 101 came from. The Earth of the Champions wasn’t even connected to Rodiot’s reincarnation circle as was mentioned quite a few chapters back from this one. Now as for Time passage between the worlds that is really hard to pinpoint but it does seem to sometimes flow the same amount and sometimes flow different amounts so it’s not totally synced up but it does sometimes sync up it seems.
ObserverBias
Alright, first things first; /still/ wilding on Heinz, despite him outright acknowledging “He’s likely exceedingly influential by now.” That’s kind of the point behind him making the connection to the gods themselves setting his image as an enemy in the dungeon. Considering such, given the gods have yet to say so themselves and he managed to arrive at this conclusion in direct opposition to Edgar’s opinion, asking the gods for “more info” is SO unlikely to give an answer that it’s odd you suggest it. They know /almost less/ than his group does, due to everyone that gets a “certain amount” involved with Van leaves Rodcorte’s Peeping Circle, and by proxy Curatos’ records. He’s straight-up /intending/ to get those answers from the next time Van shows up (either missing the thread where Vandalieu has made no such moves to explain before, or spotting the thread that he seemed aware of the fight the last time they fought, given his parting curse).
Pargtarta isn’t necessarily even aligned with /Peria/, it would seem. Her facade that’s keeping the other sub-gods in check is her supposed loyalty to Peria, but it would seem someone /else/ is having her keep a close eye on things (explicitly, her ‘master,’ who is allegedly already listening, when Peria is still out cold). Would agree that it would make sense for Peria (this water goddess that’s been mentioned about as often as Mikhail and touted as ‘will totally follow Alda) to instead make ranks with Vida, but I don’t know about it being based solely on detecting her champion’s soul; Van is still the official (new) Demon King, which she would hear about long before whom his soul used to be, yes?
As semi-spoiled by tvtropes, there’s a whole thing for that last bit, best not to worry about it for now.
Valeth
I think Pargtarta is loyal to Peria, when she says her master. I believe she is referring to Peria, in her quote of “My true master, my flow will go in the direction in which you point.”
She is paying lips service to Alda, and waiting for Peria. However, should Peria stand against Alda she will follow her is kind of what she is saying. At least that is how I read it.
Jago
As I see it, Heinz and his companions are being brainwashed by Alda e Curatos.
After you have fought a person for a year you are conditioned to react hostilely to the sight of him.
Add that the illusion of Vandalieu is always accompanied by monsters like Terencia and co and the idea that he is an opponent, and an evil opponent will be radicated in your brain. Even if your rational mind tries to think differently, for your subconscious he will be “the guy that beat me several times”.
ObserverBias
Except, they haven’t “fought him for a year,” they’ve been fighting him for at least a few months. And given they’re entertaining the idea that they’d be able to get answers from him to begin with (based on as little as momentarily taking control of his illusion to be spiteful mid-expiration), clearly it hasn’t poisoned to the point that the thought of him provokes a violent response. They had a measured, rather reasonable conversation about him being the in-part reason behind the title, and, previously, the first thing that held them back each time was Heinz not being able to pull the trigger. But sure, let’s go with them instinctively reacting with hostilities.
Yes, he’s placed alongside Terenecia and Gubamon; they’re aware the gods themselves are involved with the ordeal, and have examined potential reasons behind his appearance themselves. Before “blindly continuing the trial” or “‘letting’ themselves be influenced” or “not demanding answers from gods that have never let themselves be beholden to humans,” a mistake for them is not entertaining the thought that Vandalieu will not exactly be open to conversation/being any source of information for them.
Lord Rin
They literally say that over a year has passed since they entered the dungeon.
Nobody2
Yes but they didn’t start fighting van clone the moment they entered the dungeon it took them a while to get to him
Farhan
My be title have a special effects, like Ghoul emperor make vandal mor easey to get trust from Ghoul,holy son of Vida for every Vida ras,
Lord Rin
It did say that the title may bring unwanted connections from groups that are opposed to the Holy Mother and probably by extension also opposed to Vida and her races like Alda extremists. It’s not something somebody who claims to be part of a peaceful faction that wants reconciliation between Alda and Vida would want.
OokamiNoO
Priorities:
“Before that, is it alright if I go and look up the recipe for Cola?”
Wsteven7o7
He could search up the old recipe or he could make it more interesting and do it the Senku way Senk-cola.
I think the first recipe was more like a syrup and i think it used some sort of drug that now is ban?
Just remembering so i might be big wrong.
Paps
Thanks fir the chapter. Hope the author shows the talks with the Gods.
GaSharkMan
who else thinks that Zuruwarn and Ricklent (and maybe other gods) are helping Van so he can become a God and most probably replace Rodcorte and his circle of reincarnation seeing how he can send people to (and monsters…probably) to Vida’s reincarnation circle and how he accidentally created his own without even knowing the existence of it
Vandalieu the god of death or maybe he will also replace Vida and become the god of life and death
I say that would be preaty cool
Ltshrek
That could be possible,coz everyone hates rodcorte since he’s an asshat
unmellow
i agree but i don’t think van can be god of life since he has no life attribute also i think they said it’s impossible for him to have other attributes
Darkhelios
Looks like a lot of great gods (if not all) are siding with Vida. Will Alda continue to say that his “Justice” is “just”? If all his brothers/sisters decided that he’s “wrong”, will he try to destroy/punish them just to protect an idiot? Or will he be forced to admit defeat?
…I guess he will continue his fight. After all, “Justice” is supposed to be blind. So he will probably continue to believe that he’s “correct” in order to avoid dealing with his responsabilities and apologizes for ordering several genocides just to protect one idiot.
Jago
It is a matter of balance. Alda, as a god of law, is the inflexible part of the Pantheon, strongly against change. Essentially a stubborn god that wants to maintain the status quo, even when it isn’t so good.
Vida, as a god of life, tends to be a god for growth, and growth means change.
In a balanced Pantheon where there are several greater goods with different goals their positions would balance out and be mediated, but during the war several greater gods were killed, so they had two strongly opposed position: “Keep the status quo”, “Grow exponentially creating new races”.
Neither position is optimal but removing Vida has resulted in 100,000 years of stagnation, so it is reasonable that the good that aren’t too extremist for stability will move away from Alda and toward Vida.
unmellow
I don’t know who he’s protecting with his idiocy though
Valeth
The issue with Alda IMO is he admitted in a earlier side story that he made mistakes. He has internally acknowledge that he should of handled things differently. However, he also stated that he could NOT admit that he was wrong. As this would be a betrayal to his followers, as it would be in his eyes the same as saying they were all wrong.
He knows he made mistakes, and went the wrong direction, but is essentially refusing to change course. As it would mean that everything he and his followers did for a 100,000 years was wrong in his eyes….
Chiu ChunLing
The only part of that which makes any sense is that it genuinely doesn’t make his followers look good.
Kiarthros Toveke
Killing the Holy Mother of Vida is really bad looking, I love the pause when it’s discussing the possible gods that it could be. A Holy Mother title itself lends to Vida because of the mother aspect, plus the title Holy Mother killer when applied to Vida is an affront to her very domains, killing a Holy Mother of a goddess of life and love is quite the blasphemy, as life and love are both things that are depicted as defining characteristics of a mother, meaning that Heinz killed the best representation of life and love in the world. If that doesn’t scream villain, what does?
Vitor
As a matter of fact just in case you don’t remember, in Vida’s religion the worst sins are rape, and killing mothers and children… thus once word gets out, they’re f*cked
Kazza
SMH…
Heinz, man.
Slow down, take a deep breath, and stop moving for a second.
You have just found out that the son of the woman you are partly responsible for murdering now has enough influence to bestow upon you a title, all on his own. You don’t ask who, how, or when. Instead of stopping and demanding answers from your Heroic Sprits, whatever the hell the villagers are, or that worthless god of yours who owes you at least a Divine Message, you continue to just keep challenging a dungeon.
Stop. Stop and take a stand, man. You honestly deserve better treatment.
Anyways, great chapter. However, I’m disappointed Rodcorte’s confession has been glossed over. I wanted to actually see Alda fall into despair/denial when told Ricklent and Zuruwarn betrayed him. Especially since I’m wondering how Rowdy-Roddy could prove it. The only proof he really has is Legion… Which really just looks like a specialized Undead and doesn’t really announce their Divine Protection.
Ah, well.
Last complaint, I promise. Is anyone else confused what Alda expects Heinz to do for Bellwood? Pargni… *Looks over chapter* Pargtarta takes the cake for confusing me.
“Meanwhile, Alda-sama is raising a new vessel to become a champion who would succeed Bellwood, and attempting to awaken Bellwood himself.”
Wait, is he succeeding him, awakening him or just serving as a vessel? All 3? Because none of those are the same thing and the third seems mutually exclusive, as I would assume “Vessel” is a different sort of thing than the Spirit Descent. Is he planning on Heinz being possessed by Bellwood? It’s pretty unclear, especially since we don’t know if the Trial of Bellwood relates to the Labyrinth of Sin Curatos mentioned.
Ah, well. Might just be a glitch in the script due to translation. Not trying to insult Yoshi or anything, just saying it seems a bit confusing.
lazygeko
Succeeding bellwood as a hero and leader of the people. The vessel part is a bit off, but perhaps he does want bellwood to take him over. Awakening the heroic god bellwood who is sleeping after taking damage while fighting an evil god. At least that is how I think of it. They don’t conflict with each other.
As for Heinz, some town officials told him an elf was a witch so he captured her and had her burned to death. Some god told him Van is evil, so he will kill him. That same god with tell him that Vida is mad, so he will fight her, I assume. Meh.
Carex28
Yeah, I don’t except the gods that own him a divine message will tell him the truth. In the nerft case they will ignore it and in the worst case they will used this opportunity to control him even more itno thinking that Van is evil and stuff.
Well he is already quite sure of it, but still.
I agree that Heinz didn’t think twice, but that’s because he thinks that if Van is evil, then he will call his mother still “holy”. So no real evidence of Van’s real identity can be confirmed here.
ObserverBias
He’s not going to find out any new information by contacting the gods, let alone questioning the Next Level NPCs in the dungeon’s “town.” If anything, contacting Alda or the Heroic Spirits would get the message “Don’t worry about it” (in a bad Earth 1930’s(?) gangster accent). Primarily because they know /less/ than the party does at this point (I mean, what are they going to admit, “We and a couple of national figureheads called him the ‘Demon King’ directly, so that’s one reason he started showing up, and we aren’t technically able to spy on them the same way we can spy on you, so he’s likely more powerful. We’re doing that, btw. Also a number of humans and maybe some of Vida’s rac– monsters, some monsters, are willingly moving to the country he may or may not have set up somewhere in the southern continent.”
The gods don’t have /culpability/, they’re not going to own up to anything where mortals are the ones questioning them. Especially if they (the gods) think they’re right, which… they’re aligned with Alda, so they kind of have to.
While they could /try/ to leave, Vandalieu pulled some weird “I see you, bleh” mess the last time they fought, so trying to get answers out of him ‘next time’ is, of course, what they’re going to try to do. Besides which, they still have that /title/, which will cause /problems/ once they leave. They’re effectively trapped, but calling it “advancing the challenge” because a vague trap they can’t break with their abilities is a bit beyond them right now.
Lord Rin
It’s not that we expect them to get answers but rather these guys aren’t stopping to really think about anything. Just glossing it over and brushing it aside. Right now all they did was basically go, “This title isn’t good. Van was probably behind it somehow. Welp whatever let’s continue.” Instead of stopping to think how could Darcia have gotten a Holy Mother title in the first place or exactly how much influence Van has to have and how much hate his allies must have for Heinz and his other two members from their original party for it to manifest as such a title. At most they think Van has some influence but they don’t think how he got this influence in the first place or how many people he has influence over or how many of those have influence themselves. Nor do they note any inconsistencies like how the illusion Van is with Pure Breed Vampires that are known to worship an Evil God yet Darcia has a title that clashes with their beliefs since they would never acknowledge a Holy Mother which sounds like a title related to Vida and Vida would never associate with an Evil God like Hihiryushukaka.
Kazza
Ok, shouldn’t have left this comment standalone like that. I’m actually not complaining objectively that it’s a mistake on the author’s part Heinz and Co. aren’t asking the gods. I think it’s perfectly written and in character for Heinz’s journey/theme/whatever literary term to do so. I’m just acting out what I believe the author wants us to feel in regards to his decision. Like how he wants us to hate Rodcorte and Asagi because of their negative traits of hypocrisy and self-righteousness. My only actual criticism is the second part, where Rodcorte’s confession is completely glossed over. That, I think, is a legitimate mistake.
No, I agree it is in Heinz’s character to not do so, as his entire internal conflict is whether or not to trust the ways of the world and his Homeland or follow his own ideals based on what could be faulty emotions. However, that doesn’t change the fact that this is a terrible decision on his part. You say the gods are not culpable to mortals. To them, I would agree. However, wasn’t Heinz whole motivation to conquer both trials to ask Alda if his path is correct, and if told no, to change the mind of the head god for millions of years?
However, now it seems he can find no fault with Alda or his mission, showing character progression in a negative direction. He has forgotten/ignored his previous motivation in order to gain approval, when previously he declared that his ideas were worth going against the mainline religion because he knew they were true. It shows a lack of conviction, or at the very least an inability to ignore the Sunk Cost fallacy.
Even though there are justifiable reasons for his action, as many have brought up, it does not change the fact that it was a terrible decision, and that will in turn make the audience dislike the character, no matter how justifiable.
Chiu ChunLing
The problem is that Rotcortex’s ‘confession’ was nothing of the sort, it was just him acknowledging the things that were no longer possible to hide and then acting like he did nothing wrong. And Alda, because of his own mental and moral limitations, is not in a good position to call him on it.
After all, Rotcortex’s plan to break the cultural stagnation imposed by Bellwood’s insane demands isn’t wrong, even from the perspective of what Alda is trying to accomplish (strengthening humanity enough to eliminate the Vida races). And cursing Van to try and prevent him from developing is also clearly right from Alda’s perspective.
So this is a scene that would just be no fun for those of us who hate Rotcortex. We all want to see a scene where Alda loses it and punches Rotcortex in the nose before doing something that ensures his own defeat, not the scene where Alda is forced to accept Rotcortex’s help eliminating Van.
Vitor
I think it’s because they consider calling an heroic spirit just for asking something blasphemous, let’s remmember that Alda’s religion is way more strict than Vida’s
VEreality
Ok…..so….who else wants to see Van making contact with Amemiya Hiroto’s daughter once he is taken to Origin. I can see that leading toward her becoming the founder of the next Eighth Guidance……this time as an actual cult. Please say AYE if you do. It’s just so fitting and satisfying to think about
Jonathan Hurd
Aye!
Also i’m adding to the prediction that Van gives her his Divine Protection and she becomes a Holy Woman in the new Religion.
lazygeko
I don’t really want to see the start of a cult, but I am looking forward to Van meeting her and them talking together. *Waku waku* Really excited for this.
Lord Rin
I’m wondering if there’s a goddess version of Pluto. They said that lots of things are gods on Earth and Origin because enough people worship them to the point that even urban legends and anime characters are becoming gods. Pluto was actually worshiped as holy and stuff because she cured so many people and she made sure that when the Eighth Guidance killed people, they didn’t involve civilians.
Nobody2
I I’m sure there is a god version of at least Pluto possibly even other guidance members but definitely Pluto
Chiu ChunLing
Meanwhile I’m just wondering why her name gets censored like that.
shadowboy
AYE
Joseph Nguyen
Did Van get any more girls later on?
Vaccaria
Thank you very much for the chapter.
This Edgar still won’t admit that they are garbage scum. What an asshole. And this idiot Heinz, still pretending to be a saint with no sin even though they killed a mother and left her son to die (which didn’t happen thankfully).
Oshibo
That to an extent is an unfair statement, while Heinz likely wouldn’t have saved him, Van did collapse the cave making everyone think he was dead and left it like that for a few months, everyone thought he was dead at that point.
Vaccaria
And if he did find Van at that time? They will just give him to be tortured and executed like that Darcia too, right? In the end, they’re still asshole that won’t admit it
ObserverBias
In that vein, Edgar is the only one that “won’t admit it.” They’re now properly aware (or suspect) the exact source of this new issue that’s upon them, and it’s something Heinz has been mulling over LITERALLY since the day it happened, to the point that the one time he /met/ Vandalieu, despite not getting his name at the time, is now aware of both his name and his heritage enough to pinpoint and guesstimate how their titles came to be.
If they’d been hired to capture a dhampir child? Riley aside (RILEY SPECIFICALLY), it’s entirely possible they would have refused the request. Edgar, even now, is justifying that Darcia was an acceptable target because a large-enough number of people considered her a “Witch” (which is generally a Very Not Good thing/entity, and remains tied to her soul), which nothing could be done about due to it being a smear campaign by Oh Wait, Remember the Bastard Vampire Trio that had their grubby mitts in Every Dhampir-Related Situation Across the Nations? Yes, them. They didn’t get to their level of notoriety by being /easily disbelieved and seen through/ in their schemes (whatever that amounted to).
“They should have thought for themselves” Them disbanding and reforming, as well as /most things/ they’ve done since (which, yes, includes becoming wanna-be reconcilers to Vida’s races while still ending up fighting and killing some of them, hence “wanna-be”) is them trying to do that.
“They’re bad at it” Okay and?
“So I’m more mad about it than the person IT HAPPENED TO” Which is a good point that you should probably review.
“But I’m a real bo– person and she’s a fictional character” As are they, go on.
They’re fully aware that 3 out of 5 of them are, at the very least, disliked by a /vast/ amount of people, considering it’s a negative title and countermands their goodwill gains, and that dislike is (entirely likely to be) based on having gotten one person killed several years ago now. They’re feeling the heat, Mr. Krabs, so maybe stop setting the restaurant on fire, yes?
Farhan
I can not wait, fight between vandal and Heinz, the next time they meet in dungeon
Doom
PRAISE VAN-SAMA, OUR LORD SAVIOR, OUR DEATH GOD, OUR CHAMPION, AS HIS ENEMIES COWER IN FEAR AND RUE THEIR EXISTENCE! THE SACRED MESSAGE TODAY IS:
Fufufufufu….yes Heinz, suffer in despair at the truth! You shall not become a Kouki so easily!
Machin
wish kouki wouldve died in arifureta
Rasho
Same
Seinvolf
Thank u always for ur great work…
^^…
Diggydawg
Van missed the chance to read up on any manga that has finished their run.
WBee
His uncle didn’t allow him any luxury so i doubt that Van got to read any manga. 🙁
Cendacyl
Oof
Nobody2
I’m glad the holy mother killer title won’t give him any advantage against Darcia in the future. And it’s just like Vandalieu to ask about a random interviewer instead of anyone “important” so he’s gonna meet the god”s” of earth and origin huh. So who wants to bet when he gets to origin he’ll somehow meet the baby of Amemiya and naruse who probably has death magic
Farhan
Who Will bet vandalieu Wil net Pluto when he come to origin
Farhan
Met Pluto
Niemand
isn’t pluto already in lambda?
Kazza
I think he means Mei, the other Hiroto and Narume’s kid who was named after Pluto. She’s got Death Magic after all.
Niemand
that makes much more sense.
Cendacyl
Wouldn’t it be something like meeting Pluto as a god when he meets the gods of origin? (Cuz she was worshipped as a god an stuff)
Gohankuten
I mean as Van pointed out that interviewer was one of the few people there that actually seemed to have positive feelings about him. He was literally so abused and starved for affection that someone being slightly nice in a good way (not annoying way like Asagi) left an impression on him enough for him to wonder about them years later.
frozen ink
I called it holy mother killer is just a title!
ha!
Suhardi
Oh yeah, i forgot to comment this, but can you give some space when POV change,
Suhardi
Who is Pargtarta’s true master
Niemand
since it was mentioned that she is a subordinate god of peria, she was probably meant.
Nobody2
YeH I’m guessing she’s pretending to side with Alda but that once Peria revives she’ll do whatever Peria does even if Peria sides with Vida.
Valeth
This is how I read it as well
Gohankuten
I have a feeling that Peria has already awakened but is pulling kind of a Ricklent and pretending to still be asleep as she gathers information to decide what she should do and if it is even safe to come out yet.
IbnuArya
Thank for the chapter :))
Decaf [Invidia]
Seems that the title of Holy mother killer doesn’t hold any positive or negative effects, it’s simply affects surface reputation.
Although I guess that this will garner more support from Alda’s faction and his radical followers, I wonder if Heinz will even want this. Heinz, for all intents and purposes, seems to have a very subdued personality. And he feels a deep sense of remorse and guilt for murdering Darcia. So I highly doubt he’ll go around slaughtering Vida’s races after overcoming the trial.
The Alda faction is also having a very funny conversation about how much of an “advantage” they have, despite their lack of information and large number of defectors and spies lol.
Now that I think of it… Wouldn’t it be funny if some of these instant grow heroes also defected?
Megamink24
It can happen, but it will probably be a small number since many of these heroes hold a great deal of respect towards the gods of Alda’s factions.
Nooblishlybad
Respect is lost when they face death itself .
But in all honesty:
I think oddly enough Heinz will be the highest chance for a hero to defect cause if Van does forgive him and that he learns that Van is back by God’s on vida side, he wouldn’t need to keep with alda peaceful faction and just join vida .
Darkhelios
Hightest chance? Not sure about that. He wants to destroy undeads in order to “save their souls” (I believe he even has a Title about that) and also believe that Demon King Fragments shouldn’t be used because those Fragments are too dangerous.
However his adoptive daughter, Selen, might want to run away and join Vandalieu… After all, she’s like him. A Dhampir. Some people (maybe even Heinz&his group) might start to believe that any Dhampir has the potential to become like Vandalieu, and decide to kill Selen in order to avoid that.
conscript117
that last part….I can totally see that, It’s very possible.
Kuro-san
One of these heroes is probably the soldier caught by one of the war gods.
conscript117
No, he probably will still kill vida’s races, most of them are known to be monsters by human standards.
Valeth
You know i get this to a degree, However I do not understand the hatred or rejection of the Kijin and Majin Races, as they are the children of Vida + Zantark. Both of whom are of the 11 original gods of creation.
Shouldn’t this put them on the same level as Dwarves and Elves who were each created by 2 gods of creation?
Just because they were made later doesn’t make them lesser.
Kuro-san
If I am not mistaken, it has been explained that mankind in general thinks Majins and Kijins are children of monsters or evil gods.
Maharadzsa
I think they hate majin, and kijin because Zantark became one with an evil god, and i think Vida, and Zantark after this make the two race
Cendacyl
Gathering attention of anti vida people and gaining the animosity of vida worshippers should be considered negative right?
X07Zero
Thank for the chapter ^^
Hahahahaha, but the title not as bad as I thought =_=;
Megatroll
Nope it’s extreme bad especially to Heinz, who want help Vida race. Now all Vida race will want kill him even he explain or not, expect he has a stupid justice like Bellwood