Gubamon, one of the two remaining Vampires worshipping Hihiryushukaka, the Evil God of Joyful Life, had been defeated.
Unlike Ternecia, his head and Magic Stone weren’t taken to the Adventurers’ Guild, nor did the Vampires who were his subordinates become disorderly groups that caused incidents in all regions.
However, rumors had slowly spread within criminal organizations that the Vampires of Gubamon’s faction had been ruling from the shadows, and among the merchants and noblemen who had been making deals with them.
Rumors that Gubamon had fallen, and that the Vampires who were his subordinates had been defeated by someone as well.
Those with connections to the Vampires were confused, as they no longer had anyone contacting them, nor were they given any orders. Of course, they would be beheaded if it was ever found that they had connections with the Vampires, so they didn’t voice this confusion aloud.
However, after several months of unnatural silence, their doubts were confirmed when Vampires from Birkyne’s faction appeared instead of their usual contacts, either seizing control over criminal organizations or offering a continuation of business.
Birkyne, the sole survivor, had tried to hide Gubamon’s death, but Gubamon had turned the majority of his own subordinates into Undead, so there was a shortage of hands even after gathering the few Vampires who had survived.
Thus, rumors surrounding Gubamon’s death slowly spread.
Just who had defeated such a monster who had been living since the age of the gods?
Had he been punished by some unknown hero in secret, or had Birkyne kicked him down in order to take control over the Bahn Gaia continent’s underworld for himself?
Or was there a monster that surpassed Pure-breed Vampires, lurking in the darkness?
“I’m sure some strong people like Heinz-oniichan and the rest of you exterminated the bad people,” said Selen, the Dhampir girl who had been saved and was now being protected by the Five-colored Blades, led by the S-class adventurer known as Heinz, the Blue-flamed Sword. These were her innocent thoughts.
Selen was a Dhampir born to a Vampire mother and human father. However, for some reason, the hidden house in the mountains that her family was living in was raided by thieves.
Selen didn’t know the details, but those thieves were a mercenary band hired by a nobleman with an evil desire for the beautiful, odd-colored eyes of Dhampirs.
It was likely that the Vampires had given information to that nobleman in order to dispose of the Dhampir Selen, her mother who was a traitor, and her father.
Selen’s mother had been a Noble-born Vampire, but not long had passed since she had become a Vampire, and she was inexperienced in both magic and martial skills. And Selen’s father was a simple hunter.
The mercenary band who attacked them was composed of over ten famous individuals with the skills of C-class adventurers, who would even accept dirty tasks from noblemen and wealthy merchants.
They had attacked the house with anti-Vampire preparations. Selen’s mother had fought hard to protect her daughter and husband, but she was defeated, her resistance in vain.
Selen’s father was heavily wounded as well, and the mercenaries closed in on Selen to gouge out her eyes.
That was when the Five-colored Blades, led by Heinz, came running.
It was around the time that Heinz, who had converted to Alda’s peaceful faction in the Orbaume Kingdom, had lost the Elf Spiritual Mage Martina in the wandering Dungeon, the Trial of Zakkart, and departed once more with his new party members, Diana and Jennifer.
They had happened to gain information on a mercenary band hired by a nobleman that was after a Dhampir girl, and they simply eradicated the mercenaries, treating them as simple bandits.
For Selen, they could only be described as heroes.
Unfortunately, her fatally-wounded father couldn’t be saved, but Heinz and his party were now continuing to protect her.
“I wonder what kind of people the ones who defeated the evil Vampire are?” she said, looking up at Jennifer with sparkling eyes.
“I wonder, too,” Jennifer said with a perplexed look. “As you said, Selen, there’s no doubt that they’re as strong as us or even stronger.”
“Eh? There are people that are stronger than you, Jennifer-oneechan?!” Selen exclaimed in surprise.
“Of course,” said Jennifer. “There is the Thunderclap Schneider in the Amid Empire, and I don’t know if he’s still alive, but there was another S-class adventurer called Randolf the True in this country, and they’re both definitely stronger than us. And there are plenty of other strong people.”
Jennifer herself was an A-class adventurer and had even acquired a superior skill. She had been given Alda’s divine protection, and possessed an Artifact as well. However, her words were not spoken out of modesty.
She was certain that Schneider, whose name had already spread across the continent before she was even born, and Randolf, who was the subject of heroic tales told by minstrels while she was a child, were clearly stronger than her and her companions.
At the same time, Jennifer suspected that the one who had defeated Gubamon might have been one of those two.
The Thunderclap Schneider has defeated Elder Dragons and evil gods before. He would be able to defeat Gubamon, who was just as powerful as Ternecia, whom we couldn’t defeat. The same goes for Randolf.
For Schneider, Jennifer couldn’t think of a reason why he hadn’t come forward if he was the one who had defeated Gubamon. In Randolf’s case, he had already taken a step back as an adventurer, so perhaps he simply didn’t want to cause a fuss.
However, these were only guesses. Assassins belonging to dark Guilds that accepted assassination requests and the special forces of the Amid Empire and Orbaume Kingdom. The existence of such people was half-superstition, but there were still plenty of powerful individuals that Jennifer and her companions didn’t know about.
And there was no guarantee that the one who had defeated Gubamon was on the humans’ side.
Something that was so fearsome that Ternecia made the effort of coming back to be killed by us. It might have been that.
What was the unidentified monster that had likely taken the Demon King’s horns from Ternecia doing right now?
Thinking about this question, Jennifer felt uneasy.
But she wouldn’t express this and make Selen feel anxious.
“But one day, we’ll become the strongest,” Jennifer said.
“Really? Amazing!” Selen exclaimed.
Jennifer laughed. “Heinz is still the only S-class, but me, Diana and everyone else will all become S-class as well,” she declared, puffing out her chest.
Selen’s eyes grew brighter.
But Diana, the Elf priestess of Mill, the goddess of Slumber, interrupted. “Jennifer, don’t get Selen so excited this late at night. Why would you tell her bedtime stories that would keep her awake? It’s important that Selen sleeps properly at night. To begin with, sleep is –”
“My bad, I’m sorry, so stop the lecturing. You’re making me sleepy as well, not just Selen,” said Jennifer.
Diana’s lecture regarding the goddess of slumber caused Selen to yawn immediately.
A masked man let out a muffled scream as he stumbled in a deserted alleyway at night.
“I thought it was too shallow,” sighed Heinz’s companion, the scout Edgar, who had thrust his bare fist instead of his trusty dagger into the man’s solar plexus.
There were over a dozen other people groaning as they lay on the ground nearby, wearing the same masks.
All of them were wearing lightweight leather armor that was easy to move in; they appeared to be assassins at a glance. However, the people lying on the ground were holding not daggers, but small maces, axes and some even had shields equipped on their arms.
“Both the way you used a fake request to draw us away from Selen, and your attack, were quite sloppy. Your footsteps were so noisy. I thought some kids were having a race in the middle of the night,” Edgar said.
“Sh-shut up… you traitor,” one of the masked men groaned in a strained voice. He was the leader… or rather, the one who had been put on the ground first, so he had recovered a little more than the others.
However, Edgar’s response to his words was scornful laughter. “Shut up, huh? Do you people understand that if you all shut up for all eternity, I wouldn’t have anything to complain about?”
Heinz looked down on the man with an angry gaze. He was suppressing his urge to kill them, but it was clear even through the man’s mask that he was terrified by the wrath of an S-class adventurer.
“Why… why do you people, who offer prayers to the god of law, go as far as to commit lawless, futile acts to try and lay your hands on Selen?” Heinz asked.
The masked men were not assassins or bandits, but priests who normally offered prayers at the Church and the priest-warriors who protected them.
In the Orbaume Kingdom, where Vida’s races that possessed monster ancestry were given human rights if they had favorable relationships with humans, these people were known as ‘Alda extremists.’
They were those who advocated that Vida’s races that originated from monsters, such as Scylla, Lamia and Centaurs, were not people but monsters that should be exterminated regardless of whether they were dangerous or not.
This opinion was commonplace in the Amid Empire, but it was considered to be a radical idea in the Orbaume Kingdom, and those who followed this idea normally disguised themselves as normal believers.
In order to assassinate the Dhampir girl being protected by Heinz’s party, these men had put up a fake request at the Adventurers’ Guild under the Church’s name, trying to draw Heinz and his companions away from her.
Edgar had seen through this and acted as if he had been fooled, pretending to leave Selen in the care of a trusted acquaintance. He had left the female Dwarf Delizah, as well as Jennifer and Diana, to protect Selen while he and Heinz attacked the extremists who had been lured out.
“You know what will happen if we hand you over to the guards without passing judgment on you here, don’t you?” said Heinz.
If extremists acted to carry out their beliefs, even if they were affiliated with the Church, they were punished harshly as criminals. Since they broke the law despite serving Alda, who ruled over law, it was only natural that they were punished more severely.
In cases where they armed themselves and planned to kill people, even if the murder was prevented, the criminals would not be able to escape becoming criminal slaves under the Orbaume Kingdom’s law.
The girl in question was someone under the protection of Heinz, an S-class adventurer, the great hero who slayed a Pure-breed Vampire, star of Alda’s peaceful faction, honorary nobleman. Since these men had targeted this girl, it was even possible that they would be executed.
But it seemed that the extremists were prepared for this.
“Do as you wish,” the man managed to groan, despite being unable to suppress his fear. “We intended to be caught by the guards even if we succeeded. Since we have disturbed law and order, it is only natural that we receive our punishment in a public place.”
“… Why are you so determined to try to kill Selen?” Heinz demanded. “What did she ever do? She’s just a child who has lost her real parents!”
“Because it’s the right thing to do!” the man shouted, as if his emotions were being squeezed out of him. “Alda said that Vida’s races are those who bring disorder to the world! Even if they are harmless now, even if they are friendly towards us, they will cause a great catastrophe one day! What’s wrong with obeying the words of our god?!”
The Alda extremists of the Orbaume Kingdom had felt a strong impatience at the fact that Heinz and his party had gathered fame.
He was an S-class adventurer, and even possessed the Guider Job that acted as proof that he was a champion.
And he was protecting a Dhampir girl.
There were already all kinds of movements to turn Selen into a symbol for the peaceful faction, and if Heinz and his party’s actions continued at this rate, there might even be a duke trying to make Selen an honorary noblewoman.
If that happened, the movement to acknowledge Vida’s races in the Orbaume Kingdom would grow stronger and stronger. It would be too late to change things then.
It was already quite late, but Selen had to be erased as soon as possible.
However, even if they wanted to take action, they couldn’t make use of a criminal organization… It wasn’t an issue of sentiment; the important figures among the extremists had connections to a certain criminal organization, but because Gubamon had been defeated by someone, that criminal organization had stopped working.
Thus, these masked extremists had no choice but to take the most extreme of approaches.
“The peaceful faction is a weak compromise, nothing more than heretical teachings! You people, those who spread these teachings as truth, are traitors!” the man shouted, forgetting his current situation.
A vein appeared on Edgar’s forehead as he moved to silence the man.
However, Heinz stopped him. “Indeed, you’re right,” he said. “Alda wished for the extermination of Vida’s races in the past, just as you say, and I’m sure that’s still true now. If that wasn’t the case, he wouldn’t have fought the goddess who battled the Demon King at his side. If he had changed his mind, he would have sent Divine Messages to the Pope and the clergymen of the Amid Empire, telling them to stop persecuting Vida’s races. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that what you extremists advocate and Alda’s will is one and the same.”
Not only Edgar and the masked man, but all of the other extremists stopped in surprise at Heinz’s words.
“W-what are you trying to say?” the masked man asked, bewildered at Heinz’s denial of the very foundations of the peaceful faction’s ideology.
Heinz asked him a question in turn. “I am a member of the peaceful faction and have a Dhampir girl under my protection, and yet Alda has bestowed his divine protection upon me and dispatches his Familiar Spirits to aid me. Why is that?”
If Alda’s will would not acknowledge Heinz’s actions, if he really was a heretical traitor, why could Heinz summon a Familiar Spirit with the Familiar Spirit Descent skill?
Was it not because Alda had acknowledged Heinz?
Heinz smiled bitterly at the masked man, who was lost for words, his eyes wide open. “With that said, that doesn’t mean what I advocate is right. I’m sure that Alda is wavering, too.”
“A god, waver? Is such a thing…”
“That’s what I want to find out. And if Alda says that the eradication of Vida’s races is right… I’ll ask him why, and persuade him otherwise,” said Heinz.
He would meet a god, hear what he had to say and then persuade him otherwise. Heinz’s words could even be considered arrogant. The masked man held his breath… and then exhaled loudly.
“This is our defeat,” he said, removing his mask to reveal his now-doubtless expression.
After this incident, the Alda extremists who had planned Selen’s assassination turned themselves into the guards’ station.
Of course, the death penalty was considered. Although Heinz appealed for their lives to be spared, they became criminal slaves. However, Heinz’s party purchased them and guided them on a search for the location of the Trial of Zakkart, and an adventure to investigate Alda’s true will.
This was the first record of Heinz guiding others as a Holy Guider.
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NOVEL DISCUSSION
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ShotgunMage
Heinz is a really complex character, probably one of the most in this series. And he’s a pretty good representation, IMO, of just how difficult and nuanced justice really is.
RayneVilanore
I agree he is complex, but I feel that what he seeks is justification not justice.
RayneVilanore
Hienz Alda still believes that, but I will convince him other wise.
Arrogant ass, the other GODS couldn’t change his mind how in the hell are you going to change his mind.
EjPuzatiy
I like how author creates the conflict in community here
We see how Heinz is trying to find justise, change himself, but cant fully convert to Vida because his whole life he lived by Aldas laws and was told that his right, or some prejudices that ALL NORMAL PEOPLE have towards the NEW types of undead, that appeard on this planet because of Demon Lord and Vida.
Normally, all undeads were evil beings that wanted to destroy all what they saw. That is what we should understand using undead from Origin and “other places” Rodcorte was talking about as examples. They are NOT normal, in any way. So Alda is even right.
Buuuut! There is a one HUGE issue. Vida created NEW LIVE FORMS, that are undead, but are no exactly undead. This lifeforms can have kids. This lifeforms can turn others in themselfs. Its like they are mutants that can infect others with they’re gens, and thats not lethal and even makes them stronger. Magically. Or physically.
But Alda is a traditionalist, who just dont want to embrace changes, because of… fear, i guess. Immortal beings, such as Pure-Breed Vampires can live so long, that they can either become strong enough to slay gods, or become gods (and evil ones) themselfs. And uses weakness of humanity as excuse.
And here is Heinz; he wants, but something is missing for him to change completely, so his still lingering on something that he lived with his whole life, because in other case, it will mean, that all what he done in the past was for nothing. Guilt? Why shouldnt he feel it? Its normal. I feel guilty even when i argue with my parents, and he saw how a harmless lone mother was burned at the stake ALIVE AND AFTER TORTURE, because HE captured her. Im sure he killed a lot of ghouls, as they are considered monsters, but you sure he ever saw them as parents protecting they’re children, not hungry and dangerous monsters that seek its prey or “future parts of the tribe (convertion) outside of they’re territory?
Yet, Darcia was aroud that village for around half a year and didnt do any harm. And then she was killed LIKE THAT.
And at the end of the day, the only inexusable sins are rape (doesnt matter of what age the victim is) and sadistically done tortures and killing.
But yeah, the fact that Van is not obliged to spare him, is a fact, because that is fo him to choose.
And yes, revenge feels good.
Ronin
Heinz is a walking contradiction. He is a coward who when he doubts lets others talk him out of that doubt. And then when other’s doubt he talks them into his own idea.
God-stealth0
Bla bla bla 😑 for me thiss is just time a chapter lost i mean of course i know that is necesary until certain point but in really i can’t with those people make me sick🤢
Alke
Sigh! I was so pissed off that I wrote an expanded virulent comment 😩😩😩it’s really revolting every time I think about it! Oh, and when I speak about killing the monsters, it’s not that all the monsters are bad, after all, he can cooperate with Vandalieu who can move his own pple to vida’s system even if they were considered as monsters, so that would just leave behind the ennemies outside the system, and help to exterminate the ones who stay in the demon king’s one. After all, they are just outsiders, it’s not that they are absolutely good or bad, Zakkart knew it since day one! When they can communicate, you can always find common ground, if they want to antagonize you still, you can just kill them. Well, that’s especially true for Alda! If he wants to stubbornly be an enemy, he will have to just die 😒😒
Alke
The dumbassses that worship this genocidal criminal Alda, don’t even know why the traitor wants to erase all these people! (because you are definitely a traitor when you stab your fellow ally after using them and strip them of them power wich is daylight robbery). And when you justify that with moral idiotic religious beliefs, it’s even worse! 🖕🖕He’s even worse than Rotcortex who doesn’t pretend that he cares at least! 😒😒😒He just want to erase them because he wants to make a Reincarnation system disappear! 🖕🤬Could you not begin by monsters, you monster?! Isn’t it logical to erase alien gods systems than to attack your own poeple?! Alien monsters that destroyed 99%of the world’s inhabitants because of your incompetence!!! And when Vida helped creating pple that can overcome the harsh environment and repopulate this empty world that your incompetence “helped” to create, you don’t find a better thing to do than to destroy her and her efforts 🤬🤬🤬🤬🖕🖕🖕. The worst is that she is so gentle that she feels guilty for your own actions!! It made her feel that she did an error!!!! WTF ?!?! Saiaku Saiteiiii gomi kami!
Strahd
I think the “Pacific” Faction wouldn’t last, it would break up, most likely when the Blades of Five Colors break up, with Selen asking herself: “why am I a person and my mother isn’t?”
Randy Rando
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
~C.S. Lewis
redboi1411
I actually find a lot of the comments here to be really dumb and shallow. I feel I have been already spoiled about the fact that Heinz will fuck up further in the future so nothing can be done about it, but I’ll still be speaking from the perspective of what has been read so far.
I find it stupid to see so many people constantly emphasizing the “things from the past won’t disappear” nonsense exactly because it sounds like nonsense. I don’t disagree that Van has no obligation to ever forgive Heinz, and I don’t really feel like finding him evil for wanting to kill him for it even if I disagree completely with him about it, but this whole “crimes are forever and they shall never be erased” thing sounds like the brainwashed mutterings of religious fanatics, and there’s not even a distinction that some acts may be too much to allow any degree of repentance from a person, is just all crimes are never forgotten and never disappear. And is in this really accusatory tone like no matter what you ever do, you fail once you have failed forever, which is incomprehensibly extreme no matter how I try to look at it.
What really makes this weird for me is that, as far as I have any capacity to remember, we don’t even have a clue about the extent of Heinz’s “crimes”. Have we ever actually been told how many members of Vida’s races without any desire to fight or cause anyone harm he has killed? Why the fuck do I see so many of you weird people claiming he has killed scores of them, actually making shit up to justify everything? I like the people that find him boring because he’s a “cookie cutter good MC” far better because at least they are not making shit up. If there’s any chapter where the number of such “victims” is indicated, I don’t know, could someone point it out? Maybe I entirely missed some line somewhere.
And finally, I don’t understand the point of saying “he do because feel guilty so fuck him”. What the fuck does that even mean? You cannot restructure your beliefs out of guilt? Why is that hypocritical? Did I miss a memo somewhere? Is it written in the good book of law and goodness that only specific emotions can cause a change in you otherwise you are a piece of shit? Not only does this feel once more like justifying shit because there’s no actual explanation I can see, but it also gets worse because the same shit happens again: People come and make shit up. *Please* stop making shit up. Assertions suddenly start being thrown that all that Heinz has here is guilt. He’s guilty and trying to run away from it. Have any of you perhaps possibly thought that he felt guilty, then that caused incongruity with the fact that he shouldn’t because this is what Alda has decided is good, _then_ restructured his beliefs based on that? Once again, *WHERE* the fuck is it ever indicated guilt is all there is to this? Why are people making shit up again to justify their point? If there’s such solidity to your point, there’s no need to conjure things up, right? There shouldn’t be. But oh well, maybe all of these things will come from future chapters I haven’t even read and that I have not the slightest clue why the fuck they are being mentioned before I’ve even read said chapter. Hopefully not, or I’ll be even more angry at these stupid comments.
EjPuzatiy
They are but a 13 y.o. edgelords, who forgot to check in there are any new chapters of they’re beloved cultivation manhuas.
Bla Bla bla
Al parecer todo apunta a que vandeliu va a perdonar a ese heinz, y espero no sea así
Vitor
“Alda said that Vida’s races are those who bring disorder to the world! Even if they are harmless now, even if they are friendly towards us, they will cause a great catastrophe one day! What’s wrong with obeying the words of our god?!”
Tour god, tonbegin with, qnd Bellwood, and Heinz, since we are at it, and Alda’s extremistas, and Alda’s peacefull faction, and Edgar, and Delizah, and Ridley, and Gordan… And everyone who throws a tantrum and wants to kill Vida’s races just because “they didn’t exist before the arrival of the Demon Lord”
SmerchOleg
“Vida’s races will bring disorder” – why do humans in such stories act like they don’t bring disorder to the world? In reality as well.
caccuhuy
I am a member of the peaceful faction and have a Dhampir girl under my protection, and yet Alda has bestowed his divine protection upon me and dispatches his Familiar Spirits to aid me. Why is that?”???? Isnt it so obvious? Cuz there is no one that is suitable left except you. And Alan is a DUMBASS.
Alke
Yeah! Totally true!
Hu-Tao
“… Why are you so determined to try to kill Selen?” Heinz demanded. “What did she ever do? She’s just a child who has lost her real parents!”
I SMELL FUCKING HYPOCRISY. FUCK U BRO YOU CAN ASK VANDALIEU WHAT DI HE EVER DO AND HE’S JUST A CHILD WHO LOST HIS REAL PARENTS. SHIT MY BLOOD’S BOILING AT HEINZ’S HYPOCRISY.
Chiu ChunLing
It’s not simple hypocrisy.
Heinz sincerely believes himself qualified to teach gods the ‘right’ way.
Even while he lies to everyone about his own actions. To him, such lies aren’t hypocrisy, they’re justice.
Justice simply means, “whatever makes Heinz look good.”
Bla Bla bla
Justo lo que pensé, y estoy esperando que lo mate y nada de mamadas que se le hablande el corazón
NjShade
So you begin doing good thing to erase you sins of killing single innocent mother who try to protect her child…did you speak to the innocent demi human you kill about how they feeling to toward you.
randomlnreader69
Bruh fuck heinz typical harem protagonist who says shitty promises like “I will convince the Goddess myself, yes I am right even if i dont know what happens behind the scenes and i just lived for like 30? years while they lived for hundred of thousands i am right” its just so stupid
Wsteven7o7
Is like a Quist i saw about presidents they put you five different ones show you all the bad of 4 of them that were actually good presidents and show you all the good of the last one wich was adolf Hitler but you though the last was the good because you did not have enough information.
So yeah Alda is quite Hitler in this novel since he mass murders a hole race for religion believes and one sided made them seem bat to his people. But Hainz does not know that since he knows only the good twisted things about Hitler-Alda.
Dr. Steel
People are trying too hard to hate Heinz.
Yeah he’s an antagonist but he’s not some dense/self-righteous/arrogant fool doing things for self satisfaction or twisting the facts to fit his worldview. He’s a guy good at heart who’s made some mistakes in the past but is trying to move on (even if the way he’s moving on isn’t perfect either, especially from the perspective of us on the MC’s side, he’s still trying damn it).
Chiu ChunLing
Yes he is.
“Alda wished for the extermination of Vida’s races in the past, just as you say, and I’m sure that’s still true now. If that wasn’t the case, he wouldn’t have fought the goddess who battled the Demon King at his side. If he had changed his mind, he would have sent Divine Messages to the Pope and the clergymen of the Amid Empire, telling them to stop persecuting Vida’s races. The fact that this hasn’t happened means that what you extremists advocate and Alda’s will is one and the same.”
It’s really that simple.
“I am a member of the peaceful faction and have a Dhampir girl under my protection, and yet Alda has bestowed his divine protection upon me and dispatches his Familiar Spirits to aid me. Why is that?”
Because you still worship him, and that means you’re okay with the abovementioned facts even if you waver. Oh, but let’s claim it’s Alda who’s wavering. Sure, that’s plausible.
Vitor
Because he refuses to learn from said mistakes mate, keep reading and you will see
redboi1411
Fuck off. “Keep reading”, why would you be commenting against the perspective of people that have no clue about future events?
This is what I felt many times seeing the comments of people like you bringing shit up that I didn’t remember seeing anywhere. Discussion is part of the fun of any story. Why the fuck, and I really do mean why in the all goddamn fuck, would you just come from the future and go “nuh uh, bro, that’s not what will happen”.
Leaving aside the spoilers, fuck off. Annoying people like you is why shit like this becomes so boring. If people believe for a moment that Heinz actually means better but later he fails to live up to his attempts to fix his mistakes, why don’t we see that happen, instead of you informing so ahead of time for no fucking reason? Why aren’t you discussing these things with people that have seen them, not readers that don’t have a fucking clue? Annoying goddamn assholes.
redboi1411
But hey, I guess being right and hating on a character is the point of a story. Not the actual fucking story, seeing it play out and enjoying the process. Fuck me if someone may wish to come to their own conclusions and see how things play out for the uncertain future.
NjShade
So he doing this to bury his deepest mistakes and avoid facing its…that one of act that people ran away from reality.
Baldingere
Holy guider. Wow, that’s… clichee. You’re totally treading the path if a naive nice guy. That’s not bad in itself but you don’t convince me Ketchup.
SinOfSloth
I think the common mistake people make with redemption and a change of mentality is that they believe it’s a simple switch of the mind. But that really isn’t the case. Feeling guilty for an action done in the past and using that guilt as a way of change isn’t wrong. Him protecting Selene out of the guilt (Instead of justice) isn’t wrong. Most people who go through a sudden change that forces them to reevaluate themselves and their actions tend to feel guilt and use that guilt as a way to propel their actions. I honestly don’t see why Heinz saving Selene out of his guilt for his past actions are wrong. I don’t see why he needs to feel the need to perceive justice as his main motivation to be a morally good person. Wanting redemption and feeling guilt for your actions doesn’t make you a horrible person. Calling him a hypocrite for doing what he feels is atonement for his past actions doesn’t really make sense to me (especially since to his knowledge, Vandaliue is dead and also to my knowledge, atonement was not an act that was easily quantified) don’t most people who seek atonement do it so that the guilt they feel is lessened? Before justice becomes the driving ambition during redemption, most of the time the person must be willing to let go of their guilt first (that itself is a personal issue that the person themselves needs to face) which isn’t as easy to do. So Heinz has his character flaws, I don’t understand why the people in the comments are acting as if nobody else does as well (even Vandaliue has his as well). I’d rather he uses his guilt to save another innocent life and make the kingdom safer instead of sitting down, wallowing in self pity or dying a useless death because he decided to go against an Empire’s beliefs on his own. Actions fuelled by guilt are not wrong, I really don’t understand why people are making it out to be so.
Also, to be able to be redeemed/to atone/to ask for forgiveness, you first need to realise that you did something wrong. Heinz’s is an adventurer of the Amid nation. Since he was a child he has grown up to hate the race of Vida, to see them as nothing less than human. That mindset is something that is rooted deeply into him, it was essentially part of who he was for a long time. Accepting a request to capture someone who was in cahoots with a vampire would not have been seen as unordinary (if you were to think of how Kurt had turned away from the marshal when he found out he was working with the vampires, this has the same mentality as that. To them people who willingly choose to help vampires or be in any sort of relationship with them is wrong) Up until he handed her over, Heinz never doubted that his actions were wrong because that was all he knew, it wasn’t until he saw Darcia being burnt firsthand (instead of instantly being killed) did he realise how inhumane the actions of the people of Mirg were. This was were seeds of doubt had been planted in him. You can interpret him leaving Mirg as him running away but I see it as him leaving an environment that would’ve continued to pollute his mind. It would’ve been virtually impossible to find people of the same like mindedness as him, there’s even the likely hood that someone of higher power would’ve sent someone to kill him for his beliefs. I personally think him moving to the Orbuame kingdom would’ve been the only way to help change his beliefs about Vida’s races. Expecting him to actually contribute to changing the way the people of the Amid empire view Vida’s races (especially back when he was still a weak A-class adventurer) is heavily unrealistic. There’s a higher chance that he would’ve been silenced before he could contribute to any kind of reformation (especially since there’s no foundation for him to even use to build on) I think him going to the Orbuame kingdom to further change his views of Vida’s races and finding a sub faction that had similar ideals to him was a necessary action needed to ensure his development as a character happened. Instead of making a small drop in the ocean wouldn’t it be better to make a bigger splash that would create ripples that last longer? What‘s wrong with him building a force outside of the Amid empire before returning to advocate for a change in the way they view Vida’s races. There are multiple ways to make changes without having a frontal fight against your enemy, especially if that enemy is larger than you in every sense of the word. While Vandaliue has justification to feeling anger and a validation to seeking vengeance, that doesn’t make Heinz the absolute villain, nor does it make Vandaliue good in any sense. It is simply the way of the world and how actions could be interpreted differently by either sides. I also don’t understand how Heinz is supposed to ‘properly’ atone for the actions against Vandaliue and his mum if he believes they are dead in the first place. Wouldn’t it make more sense to help those in a similar situation to that of Vandaliue as a way to apologise to him as opposed to fighting a nations that won’t budge? (I’m honestly confused as to how people expect Heinz to contribute to any form of change when even an S-class adventurer that believed in Vida hasn’t bothered to do so despite having the raw power)
Anyway this has been a long rant(?)/opinionated observation(?) that I wrote out due to the reaction I noticed others have had towards Heinz. In all honesty I do believe that he is a very complex and well wrote out character. One who has both his flaws and boons fleshed our very well. I personally feel that his character is very real and also somewhat relatable to an extent because he has his dark moment and his good ones. Personally I hope he doesn’t die (and that he maybe converts to Vida’s religion) or at least should he die (which I believe has a higher chance of happening), it isn’t by Vandaliue’s hand or that his soul isn’t destroyed (very unlikely but oh well)
Hobbes
I like how well thought out most of what you said was, but I have 2 corrections.
First is that Kurt was pissed at the Marshal not for the fact that he colluded with Vampires in general, but the fact that he betrayed his nation to do so (and oftentimes put their orders/interests ahead of the Mirg Shield-Nation’s even if he maneuvered so Mirg could get benefits out of the Vampires demands) & WHO it was amongst the vampire groups (i.e. the most powerful, cruel, inhuman, and vicious scum serving the remants of the demon king’s army).
Secondly, Heinz and basically everyone else who truly sides with Rodcorte, Bellwood, and/or Alda throughout this story has at least one of two commonalities. Either, they’re doing so out of selfishness, special interests, or dishonorable self-preservation… or they give up the will or ability to think for themselves.
And THAT is a hefty indictment and character flaw for an individual… ANY individual.
Following along, living within a flowing collective, just doing work to get by isn’t ever wrong by itself… but when you see news of difference that contradicts what you believe in, believe that you know, and/or what you wish to stand for and DO NOTHING to fundamentally evaluate and change yourself/your situation… that is willingly and sinfully surrending your power and agency as an individual to maximize the positive impact you have in the world.
theblasblas
It’s not accurate to say that believers of Alda in the Amid Empire are can only be either selfish or refusing to think. You have to take into account the fact that their life experiences actually reflect Alda’s teachings, they don’t contradict them.
Ghouls DO attack villages, kidnap women and eat people. The vast majority of undead ARE creatures motivated only by their hatred of the living. And the only active vampires are those who worship an EVIL evil god. For the vast majority of Amid Empire citizens, Alda’s teachings make sense because of their life experiences and thr experiences of those around them.
Remember that Schneider is on Vida’s side not because he thought with his head.. but becauae he thought with his LOWER HEAD.
Chiu ChunLing
Unfortunately, this doesn’t quite cut it.
It’s obvious that people who are outcasts from society will commit crimes against that society. MOST of the violence suffered by people in the Amid Empire comes from their fellow humans, both those outside and above the law.
And those who are blinded by fanaticism are usually on the side committing more violence against those humans ‘beneath’ them than is committed by Vida’s races.
That’s why Schneider is so popular for beating up nobles, including killing one in broad daylight in the street for having killed a slave…of a Vida race.
And those who are in a policy-making capacity know perfectly well that exterminating Vida’s races, especially those descended from monsters like Scylla, is counterproductive because it allows the lands that they can settle more easily than humans can to become unmitigated Devil’s Nests and endlessly produce genuine monsters.
You say that Schneider was convinced Alda was wrong by thinking with his “LOWER HEAD” as if that somehow supports Alda’s position.
Alda is simply dead wrong, his entire strategy is an utter failure, if not for the very acts of Zaccato and Vida that he and Bellwood most detest and condemn, humanity would have gone extinct and Guduranis would have won.
Whether it’s attempting to develop new technology, inviting the Evil Gods to defect from the Demon Lord’s army, or making new races that could inhabit and control areas mankind can’t.
Meanwhile Alda and Bellwood’s foolish actions very nearly snatched defeat from the jaws of the victory earned by Vida and Zaccato, driving mankind right to the brink of extinction.
Ironically, Vida’s heroics to buy space for the nearly extinct races of mankind are the only reason they exist and can prosper today.
And I’ll repeat this cause it’s important, but everyone who actually does the math KNOWS this to be the case. Marshkuzarl doesn’t oppose Alda’s Pope and Temple on principle or sentiment or “his LOWER HEAD”, he opposes them because their policies would spell disaster for the nation he rules, just as they’ve spelt disaster for countless human nations buried in history because they were foolish enough to implement Alda’s doctrine into actual policy.
Furthermore, even Heinz, who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the big picture, at least can figure out that the whole “wantonly massacring women and children” thing doesn’t even LOOK good.
Randy Rando
@ Hobbes: I’d say fundamentally changing your stance on wether or not about half the population of the world is evil and deserves to be massacred for nothing, followed by sneaking out of your home country to one that better fits your new beliefs isn’t nothing. From the moment he was born, he was brought up being taught and genuinely believing that Vida’s races were evil and needed to be wiped out. It would take incredible strength of character to reevaluate everything you had believed in and admit that you and the gods you worship were wrong. If Mr. Ketchup was the MC of another story, many people would probably criticize the author for creating a character who is unrealistically virtuous and noble, but because of the perspective that we, the audience have been given, Mr. Ketchup feels like an evil villain.
yvesdakempo
I’m impressed by the way author made these characters heinz and Van with such contradiction and complicated story and personality, that made the readers couldn’t just straight up hate or love them right away.
OtakuOnCaffiene
But can we all agree that rodcorte is a douch? I mean like he didn’t have to literally curse our MC so that our MC would suicide at the start now did he? He could have left him alone and let the MC do his own thing.
Direnoiraen
Yep, Douchecorte
Vitor
Indeed, specially because he didn’t know that he may grow able to destroy souls, and by his opinion, he wouldn’t be able to kill the reincarnated that he graced with his prided good fortunes and cheat-skills, but the whole novel is built around Rodcorte stupid decisions, beggining by nota helping the gods of Lambda back then
Chiu ChunLing
Sorry, but WUT?
Wsteven7o7
Contradictory because they have different views complex because no matter what yoy say you can say the same thing for the other.
Love them or hate them because everybody has different views of right and wrong.
Chiu ChunLing
Sure, we all have different views of right and wrong.
But we can straight up love Van and hate Heinz.
GabiL
i should have gessed this sooner
hungsayori
Heinz’s first record of guiding : *reasons with group of attempted murderers, sways their faith by charismatically proposing his own and inducing self doubt to the extent of turning themselves over
Vandalieu’s first record of guiding : *wakes up, sees Sam and Knochen
Sam : i can fly, i can touch the sky
Knochen : am castle. uuooohnn.
Wan
Quiiin: new life
Braslack
rachei KKK
XPotato
“I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away
I believe I can soar
I see me running through that open door
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly
I believe I can fly (woo)”
WholesomeAF
Heinz is doing great as the protagonist of this universe. I like his conviction and way of thinking. If Alda is not a so stubborn and stiff I might hope he’ll listen to him…
Chiu ChunLing
If Heinz weren’t an irredeemable asshole he’d realize that Alda was wrong 100,000 years ago when he attacked Vida and he’s still wrong 100,000 years later and that’s not going to change because of anything Heinz says or does.
His options are straightforward and very simple, be on the side of Alda, the genocidal asshole who started the war with Vida, or be on the side of Vida.
Wsteven7o7
Well he does not know all the truth since Alda had twisted to his own fit.
Wsteven7o7
Is like a Quist i saw about presidents they put you five different ones show you all the bad of 4 of them that were actually good presidents and show you all the good of the last one wich was adolf Hitler but you though the last was the good because you did not have enough information.
So yeah Alda is quite Hitler in this novel since he mass murders a hole race for religion believes and one sided made them seem bat to his people. But Hainz does not know that since he knows only the good twisted things about Hitler-Alda.
TruePath111
I don’t understand why people hate Heinz so much. Hes very similar to MC and doesn’t know a lot of things of the world. Even MC doesn’t know some things.
If there’s someone to hate and worst then Heinz is that guy who stole MC girl and Powers.
I can’t help but question the IQ of some people in the comment section.
DieOfSanity
Amemiya hasn’t done anything to Vandalieu though.
Leonidas79
Heinz and the MC just went in different directions of the (almost) same path so idk why ppl hate the man, the MC turned like that because of what he had experienced ’till now, that is suffering and torture. Heinz is the opposite, he had never experienced something like that(at least that we knew) so is obvious that his viewpoint of things is different from the MC.
And I don’t think that ~Amemiya~ guy stole the girl of the MC, she wasn’t his girl in the first place, the MC just happened to try saving her and that’s all.
Valeth
A lot of the hate, I think comes from the generic template that is Heinz. He is a very basic and common hero in novels so he is kind of boring. Secondly, he is rather ignorant of many things and how his own actions seam to affect those around them, or at least sometimes he comes of this way.
Mainly though I feel that a lot of the Hate comes from the fact that his IMO seams like a self centered, shallow character. Yes he care for Selen, a lot and won’t let anyone hurt her. However, their original rescue of her I feel had more to do with his own guilt for what he had already done, than a sense of justice. Not to mention, murdering someone and then saving someone else does not undo the fact that you committed a crime, your still a murderer.
Jubaer
I’ll ‘Indirectly’ kill your mother.
Let’s see if you can forgive me.
Jubaer
And I’m not hating on Heinz I’m just justifying Van’s fate for him. Van should kill him. He should not forgive Heinz!
WholesomeAF
Eh? I think it’s far fetch to compare heinz to MC since heinz character is Lawful good while Van is chaotic neutral…..
Kahandran
If I were running this as a D&D campaign, I would call Heinz Neutral Good and Van would be Lawful Evil (or Lawful Neutral).
Heinz does his best to do whatever he thinks is the right thing to do, despite laws telling him otherwise = NG.
Van follows a strict code of ethics (albeit weird ethics) where he forgives the small stuff but not the big stuff = Lawful. Whether that lawfuless falls under Neutral or Evil really depends on what you consider evil, though. Breaking souls is to me the most evil thing you could possibly do in a universe where souls are confirmed to exist, so I would consider him evil, though his “Demon Guide” job apparently claims he walks the path of neither good nor evil.
But as a DM I would also want to say that real life doesn’t really fall into nine neat little categories of alignment.
Silwith
I disagree, Heinz fits, but Van isnt really lawful and neither (especially) is he evil.
His rules arent real rules, so they dont fall into the lawful category, he just makes them up as he goes, so in effect he does just what he thinks is right in the situation, sometimes changing what he thought before.
But while i would at least discuss on the matter of lawful/neutral/chaotic (and admit that he is probably more leaning towards the lawful than the chaotic) the view that Van falls in the evil categorie just doesnt fit, evil means doing bad things to people that didnt do anything wrong and he doesnt do that, on the contrary, he even spares people because they are innocent (even tho sometimes one could even argue they are, like the civilians of the mirg shield nation who cheered for the expedition), his punishments etc may seem over the top (breaking souls, therefore erasing existence), but they are still acts against people that deserve punishment in some way, so they dont fall in the evil category.
On the other side he wouldnt fall under the “good” category either, since his actions are mostly revolving around himself and the people near him, not for a greater good or people he doesnt know.
While that may seem “lame” to some, I think Van is a True neutral if categorized.
redboi1411
I actually agree with this assessment, entirely because Van feels like a person motivated entirely by selfishness.
What he cares about is his happiness, which by consequence, is the happiness of those around him as well. He breaks souls because he doesn’t want to imagine these people he so utterly hates and that have done things he could never forgive being around, to the point he drew blood entirely from the stress of leaving Riley and Gormack around and considering not destroying them utterly. The stupidity of his uncle and his sadism left him with a complex about luxury, and he attempts to fulfill that. He focuses on making new types of foods because he enjoys them, as do the people he cares about. He tries his best to save the cultivation village that accepted and got along with him, but he wouldn’t have minded invading the Hartney Duchy because of the actions of the Duke from 200 years past and the actions of his successors. All of these are motivated almost exclusively by his desires, whatever the source of those desires may be. However, he does still hold Good tendencies even if he leans far more to neutral because, despite his personal goal to become a noble, he had trouble ignoring the plight of the villagers. I just feel he still leans to neutral despite that because Van acting like this has nothing to do with morality in my eyes, just with his personal desires. And yes, I consider personal good as far as the alignment goes as beliefs that hold fast even in the presence of things that may oppose our desires or comfort.
Kiryl
I dislike Heinz because the way he choose to atone for what he did was:
1: he left the country where Vidas races truly needed help.
2: he basically just became that world’s equivalent to a rockstar…
I would have a lot of respect for him if he did what he did in the Amid empire but it seems less genuine to do it in the Orbaume Kingdom where he just is joining the most accepted version of Aldas religion…
and btw I hate your comment because you don’t just ask a question to people but continues to insult their IQ if they have another opinion than you (valid reason or not). If this is not intended you might want to read your comments through an extra time before you post them.
polynesianvibez
ah, can’t wait when Heinz dies
thanks for the chapter
WholesomeAF
Umu Umu, that’s too harsh. I believe in the end MC will hesitate to kill heinz or will be stopped by his subordinates especially his mother
abdry
It will be interesting if he see he can’t persuade Alda. Will he still side with Alda or not.
hungsayori
Interesting indeed. Judging from his personality, just like Alda, he wouldn’t take ‘no’ for an answer, we’ll get to witness the two facing the unpleasant stubbornness of their same kind. Hopefully it won’t end up with Alda silencing him with propaganda and authority. Immovable object vs immovable object
Chiu ChunLing
If he was even half serious about persuading Alda, he’d have already switched to Vida, because if Alda is okay with not wiping out the Vida races then he certainly shouldn’t have a problem with giving a divine protection to someone who is worshipping Vida.
Tomas-28
It’s a problem about fait. He still believes in the righteousnes that Alda advocates for, so it’s a bit of a conflict for him. Maybe he’ll follow the same path as Schneider, or maybe not.
Chiu ChunLing
Exactly what “righteousness” does Alda advocate other than the extermination of Vida races and believers?
Vitor
Exterminating everything that didn’t exist un Lambda before the Demon King, Vida’s Raíces, Demon King, Evil Gods, Reincarnated people from other worlds(unless they share his own narrow ideals), monsters, technology, a long etc
Erelorial
Thanks for the chapter! Heinz ain’t a bad guy, but I don’t think Van will ever forgive him. Only way he would let him live is if Darcia reincarnates and asks him to. And even that’s a ‘maybe’.
Chiu ChunLing
Is there any possibility that Heinz would ever forgive Van?
According to Alda, Van’s the Second Coming of the Demon King, he’s building an entire nation of Undead and monsters, oh and now he’s gone and resurrected the dead, and he’s totally on Vida’s side in every other way, so he and everyone he cares about have to be killed no matter what.
Any chance that Heinz says, “okay, Van and Vida are clearly in the right here” or even just “Nope, I’m out”?
Shienou
Uhg would be annoying if Heinz was originally going to be just a normal adventurer before meeting van…..like one of the main things a “hero” has is luck on his side…..so the fact that the Mc has no luck must mean that those “opposed” to him should actually gain luck to produce events where the Mc is unlucky…but with the Mc forcibly making himself stronger the enemies will have to be even luckier to make the Mc unlucky….so as long as Heinz is the enemy of van he should continue getting stronger through lucky encounters
McDeathTheReapr
Why do a lot of people hate Heinz?
He’s a good guy and i like him quite a bit, so why do people treat him like a psycho killing people for fun?
P.S i’m probably gonna get a lot of down votes from what i call MC extremists XD
Skarbrand
It’s because he only helped Selen out of guilt over killing Darcia and leaving Van to die (in his mind). This guy may seem righteous, but he let an innocent woman get tortured and burned, then left the country she died in to help ease the guilt.
Brandragoon
in the real world doing good things after doing bad things does not make up for what you did.
TypicalReader
It doesn’t make up for what one did but people have to be able to grow and change through mistakes. That’s just being part of living. If you need an example look no further than Dalinar Kholin. He could be arguably called a monster but he owned up to his actions and is trying to make up for his failings.
Wsteven7o7
Yeah it only shows how guilty you feel and want to find new light but that dies not spare you of what you did.
WizziBot
twitter in a nutshell
Pallington
I don’t hate him but his “justice or be damned” mentality is really fucking annoying as someone who prefers quiet and sketchy but minmaxy strats, as long as they work.
Necessarious
He is not necessarily a bad guy but he’s incredibly self-righteous. He had a change of heart due to guilt over Darcia and Van. The problem many people have is that he hasn’t atoned for his sins at all. By placing Selen on a pedestal he has taken advantage of his sins for wealth, power, and influence. He still continues doing guild quests that indiscriminately slaughter entire villages of Vida races, even in the Kingdom, without due-process or moral restraint. It is all just self-satisfaction to Heinz. If he really wanted to atone he would have stayed in the Amid Empire where it is the hardest to change people’s minds but is where Vida races nees the most help. He should have chosen a life more like Schneider. It’s like if a billionaire born and raised in a third world country moved to the US and decided he would lead a movement for supporting poverty in the US but not the country he was born. There are a lot of things wrong with that.
Hobbes
I agree with the first sentence, not so much the rest. I don’t think you’re wrong necessarily, but it’s definitely extremely subjective comparisons.
Hobbes
Heinz is a very likeable, charismatic character even if he is rather stubborn and thick-headed.
The huge problem is that he, like Alda and his faction as a whole, are extremely hypocritical. They act in ways similar to Bellwood acted when every one of the champions were still alive. They seek to discuss and try to act reasonable… without considering basically any viewpoints or values other than their own or ones they’ve previously acknowledged. These guys as a whole don’t tend to admit wrongdoing, they’re self-righteous, and they don’t tend to be mentally mature enough to truly compromise on anything.
The other big problem is we as readers see things in a 3rd person omniscient or 3rd person limited perspective largely centered around Van. We are led by the author to empathize with Van and mentally oppose his enemies as long as nothing breaks our immersion in the story.
…But the biggest issue is that we see Heinz and his party benefitting from Van’s actions, taking the opposing side of Van/Vida in Alda, and avoiding confronting the past in Van. We see them in their own ways try to get better, help others, and move on, but they haven’t sought out or tried to fix the biggest skeleton in their collective closet. I think that’s why it’s easy to take Van’s side and dislike them.
SuicidalSkeletin
He isn’t a good person, he is extremely hypocritical and is merely trying to be better than his old self. He knowingly led an innocent woman and a toddler to live tortured deaths only because he was requested to with a financial reward as well. He might have felt guilty of what he had done and started doubting his God’s will, but that will never change his misdoing and in my opinion he is aware of it. He saved the other Dhampir because of the guilt he felt, not because he was genuinely motivated to do it. At this point in the story he simply does things to deceive himself into thinking he’s not the person he used to be. I can see only a slight good side emerging within him, that being said its still mainly for his self satisfaction. So he’s basically a failure of a hero, more like a former fanatic turned tragic savior
DieOfSanity
He’s trying to make up for his past mistakes and become a better person. Do you seriously believe that people are incapable of changing or atoning?
Chiu ChunLing
Some people are capable of changing.
But Heinz doesn’t question that Alda must be right. He’s only trying to make Alda not look so bad to increase the worship of Alda and drive out and eventually destroy the influence of Vida.
theblasblas
Riddle me this, if Heinz really is trying to destroy Vida then why is he trying to get the races of Vida accepted as human beings?
You guys also seem to be under the assumption that Heinz doesn’t want to help the other races of Vida, but nothing so far indicates that. Just because he’s prioritizing damphyrs doesn’t mean he doesn’t care about everythinb else.
Another assumption you guys seem to be under is that the races of Vida can do no wrong, when thatvs clearly not the case. Thr vampires being a prime example. What would be so wrong with killing the races of Vida if they attack villagers and travelers(the only reason they’d normally have a quest against them in the Orbaume Kingdom)? It’d be no different than exterminaring bandits.
Hu-Tao
@theblasblas he ain’t saying that heinz is destroying vida but rather the influence of vida by making it seem like alda has “forgiven” vida and accepting the vida race(faction) into coexisting. It is a fucking trap making vida followers think that coexistence is possible but in the end it will lead to oppression because it is a propaganda. Do you understand now?
Hu-Tao
@theblasblas he ain’t saying that heinz is destroying vida but rather the influence of vida by making it seem like alda has “forgiven” vida and accepting the vida race(faction) into coexisting. It is a trap making vida followers think that coexistence is possible but in the end it will lead to oppression because it is a propaganda. Do you understand now? It also makes the vida followers seem wrong even if they did not do anything wrong in the first place and is just retaliating. For example when an alda peaceful faction sees the vida race maybe a few hundred years later the alda peaceful faction will oppress that vida race no doubt because they are “forgiven” it has been in the alda faction’s blood you can also see that they are doing things for the sake of “justice” but is inhumane. It is hard to explain but that is just how people who believes in justice but unable to accept the necessary evil in the world will always be their justification will always be it is for the justice even if it is oppression.
Korath
A first step would be to deny Alda and convert to whatever god isnt xenophopic and wants to massacre other races. Hes not doing it, he knows Alda doesnt want to change the status quo, yet he keeps his On use Cooldown power up Ability.
To be fair from a legal point he doesnt have the possibilty to atone, because he just did “just police work”, but I just cant stand it he is staying loyal to his god.
LordKira
For me Heinz it’s like Kouki from Arifureta, dense self righteous dude that he really thinks that what’s doing it’s the right thing, but he’s an hypocrite only doing it cause of guilt, and he is using Selen to try to atone his sins and doing the other shit, it’s like Van says before he is trying to save a lot of people to atone himself. I can’t wait the day when Van destroy that guy soul.
__
Yep he’s pretty much exactly like that “hero”(Lol) from arifureta.
And ohhh I fucking hate that guy!!
Machin
i really wished kouki died but he wasnt killed in the web novels hope he dies in the next vol of the light novel
theblasblas
This comparison with Arifureta is basically at the core of the hatred against Heinz. Despite Heinz being nothing like Kouki some people have been conditioned by these edgy “the heroes are always wrong” stories to automatically hate steteotypical heroes.
WholesomeAF
We have your back bro
Tomhg
He might seem reasonable because he had a change of heart, but he only had a change of heart after murdering (or being complicit in the murder of) countless innocent people that he, xenophobically, believed to be monsters and deserving of death.
I also dislike him because he’s still a bigot holding double standards, and perpetrating the same nonsense logic that the 100 bravers and so many others do. He didn’t hesitate to kill monsters who were innocent, and he still would kill monsters (vida’s species’) that were attacking humans or something, but when he comes across a bunch of bigoted priests trying to murder an innocent girl (a ‘monster’, the dhampir) he wants to change their mind and let them off.
The princess knight wanted to let the mass murderer younger brother go and thought it was enough to “promise to make him change”
I get a bit tired of it, like the shapeshifter was considered wrong for killing the (evil) guy who butchered her mother, like “okay we see your point but you went a bit far”. The dead bravers look at Van and his undead and think “wow does he realise how far he’s degenerated? He’s treating undead exactly like humans”. They are all filled with bigotry and hypocrisy, the bravers hold their own lives as sacrosanct compared to the origin people, even the now twice dead bravers think that Van is wrong to treat his undead family as the equal of human life.
I find it really frustrating.
Korath
Seriously, I think the only reason they got mad is, because it affected them. It didnt affect them during the time Kanata randomly killed people for money (and probably psychopathic tendences as seen in Lambda), but as soon it got discovered Anemiya played the SJW. I wished there were Bravers who said something like “Good job girl. Id have done the same.”
LmaoLN
I like how youre asking questions rather than bashing on the story unlike others
Donce
Because Heinz is not a good guy. I will give more easy understood example of how Heinz think.
White racist say: Yellow skin and black skin are not humans. We need to kill all of them.
Heinz say: No. Yellow skin are humans, they are not much different from white skin humans. But black skin are not humans, it is ok to kill them on sight.
So, Heinz don’t think Vida races are humans, he chooses who is human or who is monster and he don’t care if this people he call monster do harm to humans or not.
Alda racist say only 3 races are humans, Heinz say 5 races are humans and all else are monsters.
So, I don’t think Heinz is good guy. He is just self centered and self righteous, bustard. Who will say God is mistaken but I are right. So, I will make God believe in my righteousness.
Chiu ChunLing
Because he’s still senselessly killing people and he doesn’t even have as good a reason as having fun.
He’s just doing it because it’s Alda’s will.
Alda also isn’t killing people just for fun. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s even more senseless than a psycho killing them for fun.
Bellwood probably was a psycho who killed people for fun…but he pretended to be doing it for the sake of the world or whatever.
Still, whether or not Bellwood had fun killing people, Alda and Heinz murdering innocent people isn’t okay just because they aren’t doing it for fun.
Rick Paris and his bunch weren’t doing it for fun either. That didn’t make it okay, and Rick’s murders absolutely pale in comparison to what Heinz has done.
rajputra
thats just how it is he is a human after all meanwhile mc isnt even sane
Rasho
Just like what Donce and the others said, Heinze only helped Selen because he felt guilty for killing Darcia and Van(or so he thinks), but doesn’t want to help other Children of Vida because he still thinks they’re monsters, and he is basically a selective racist who’s saying sh*t like, “these guys look like us somewhat, so we should accept them, but those here have some different body parts, we can’t accept them, even if they can be reasoned with and don’t want to harm humans”
Forget being like Schneider and staying in the Amid Empire to help Vida’s Children, he could’ve gone to the Orbaume Kingdom and helped all of Vida’s Children instead of selecting a few races to be spared
Vitor
And even if you consider the majins and vampiresa which turned to Evil Gods… There’s also humans that worship Evil Gods, but that doesn’t mean that you need to masacre humans ’till extinction, and those cases, and cases of ghouls that attack humans and doesn’t know that they originated from Vida, and why they turned to the Evil Gods’ side is precissely because they lost the guidance of their godess, so, yeah, all the problem of the “oh so powerfull pure-breed vampires” is Alda’s fault, there won’t be as many majins and vampiresa turning to Evil Gods if not for this, and of course you would even have the strength of other pure-breed vampires from Vida’s side to help deal with them, but no, Alda and Bellwood had to go full Nazi on them
WolfLord_Jordon
Thanks for the chapter on a good story b
The Prodigal
Welp he’s gonna die no matter how much good he does because he’s still a threat to Van who possess multiple demon king fragments…. No matter how hard he tries he can’t erase the fact that he let van’s mother who didn’t commit any crime be tortured and burnt alive… Oh and I’d very much like to see their entire party turned undead under van….
Supreme king
Tsk this guy………..he could be mc material if this was another novel I hate it!!!
Leothegreat
No way he is a coward. He is just trying to save the dhampir girl to erase his regret lol
Hobbes
Maybe…, but this is Van’s story and a big part of why Heinz has been able to grow the way he has and have the good fortune he’s had is because of Van’s existence… (i.e. that initial series of events in which he captured and sold out an innocent mother to a fanatic for a small payday… he has also continued to profit off of Van’s actions indirectly despite his guilty conscience)
So yes he’s not really a bad person and under different circumstances he could even be seen as a saintly leader, but the past isn’t subject to change.
WholesomeAF
Haha
Notapenise
Same